Chopin: Nocturne opus 27 no 1
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 Chopin Nocturne op 27 no 1, a few questions
February 27, 2011, 04:37:52 AM by thinkgreenlovepiano
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Hi everyone,
My teacher recently assigned me Chopin's Nocturne in c sharp minor, op 27 no 1, and I have a few questions about certain parts of this piece. I won't be having lessons for a few weeks, because my teacher is going to be away... I want to start practising this piece, I know my teacher expects me to, and also I'm really excited about it. (:
I'm referring to bar 6 and 7 of the nocturne...
first of all, I'm not exactly sure how I'm supposed to play the dotted eighth note + sixteenth note in the right hand with the left hand notes. Is what I've drawn correct, or am I supposed to line them up some other way? Is the sixteenth note supposed to be played with the last left hand note, or after?
Also, in the left hand, for bar 7, I've looked at different editions and they all suggest different fingerings. Right now I'm doing 311254 511255. The 2 alternate fingerings would probably produce a better legato, but they seem a bit awkward, especially the 1-5 and 5-1 finger substitutions. If you play this piece, what fingering do you use?
Lastly, there's a large chord in the middle section of the nocturne that spans a ninth. No matter how I position my hands, I cannot reach this chord. Actually, my hands are kind of small and I can only reach octaves anyway, even if I make 90 degree angles with my thumb and pinky. So do I roll the chord? Or what?
Ok I'm done with my questions.  Thanks for your help.
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fast scale in chopin nocturne
April 07, 2006, 09:25:53 AM by term
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I'm new, so first: hello Forum =)
Im currently working on chopins nocturne in c# minor, but i have a problem with the fast scale near the end, the one with 35 notes. I tried different approaches and what seems to work for me is to move the fingers in a way that i somehow pull the keys (first a b c# d#) and then switch rapidly to e f# g# and so on (i hope it's clear what i mean  ). I feel like this could also work with very fast speed but i'm not sure ... I read some threads in this forum about how to play such fast scales, so i worked on switching rapidly between the chords a b c# d# and e f# g#...now i have the problem that i can manage to switch between 2 chords fast enough, but i cant switch between the chords for the whole scale up and down...i always miss some keys at least after 3 chords, most times after 2.
As soon as i try to "slow down" these chords i mess up when switching and missing keys, or it sounds uneven.
I practised many hours for 2 or 3 days now and i dont want to waste my time practising just one silly scale without really making some progress.
Is that the right way to practise that scale? What could i improve? Any advice would be helpul =)
PS: Maybe i should mention that before practising that scale i had no idea how thumb over works, but i suppose i somehow figured it out
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Chopin, Nocture in C# minor, opinions?
January 25, 2006, 04:19:21 AM by lagin
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Okay, I want your opinions people. To give you an idea where I'm at, I just finished Beethoven's Pathetique sonata first movement, or rather I'm just at the perfecting stage now. I have it at 132 to the half note, and don't really like it much faster, though if I had to, I could get it faster. My teacher said that this summer after my exam in June, she'ld like me to learn the Moonlight Sonata (all of it - 3rd movement, too). So my question is, knowing where I'm at, what do you guys think of me learning Chopin's Nocturne in C sharp minor, op. 27, no. 1.
(And for the record, a nineth is very comfortable in each hand, a nineth plus a semitone is still quite doable, and I can play a tenth on the outside of the keys if I need to, both hands.)
Oh, and since I've not played or listened to much Chopin before, is this very overplayed? I'm already pushing it with the Moonlight for my next exam (not the one in June, but in late 2007 or early 2008).
Thanks everyone!
Edit: The fast left hand part is the bit I'm questioning. Especially those 2 bars with the killer leaps.
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