Chopin: Prelude opus 28 no 1

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Chopin Prelude #1, Rhythm November 07, 2008, 03:07:44 PM by shingo
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Hey,
This may have been more appropriate in the music theory sub-board but I would like an answer ASAP and thus figurered it was likely to get more exposure here.
I have just started to take a look at this piece but I am instantly confused with how to work out the rhythm and I won't have a lesson for a week. This is probably a good indicator that I may not be ready for the piece yet which I will accept but I was wondering if I could have some help working it out so I can learn for next time?
Edit:
It turns out that I had laboured the process greatly due to tyring to make it more compex than it really was. I know get the rhythm which was what I thought it was initially before confusing myself by over thinking it.
A good way to work something out if you need to hear it and don't have a teacher at hand is to get a demo copy of Sibelius or some other notation software and then get it to play it back at slow tempo. This will allow you to hear what it is meant to be like and then work out where you went wrong etc and learn for the next time.
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Chopin Prelude no. 1 April 03, 2008, 07:57:09 PM by daejiny
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Ok, this is my first recording ever - and as my recording shows, I was a bit unprepared on the piano the school had (a nice Baldwin). It's a bit too bright and loud, or maybe they're just the school speakers. But here it is. Criticism and comments appreciated.
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The Difficulty (or lack thereof) of Chopin Prelude op28 no1 and my Introduction November 10, 2007, 05:15:32 PM by daejiny
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Hello, Just a quick question, why is this Chopin considered an 8+? I didn't find it to be hard, and as for musicality of my performance, I'm no Rubinstein, but it sounds as good as any other.
And maybe I can double this thread as an introduction and say that I've been playing for two years now, starting with the Mozart k545 and now playing Fantasie-Impromptu. But my theory suffers because I've never done it (and now would be a good time to start, I guess).
If my progress can be considered better than mediocre, I can only attribute that to my lucky acceptance into one of the biggest music schools in Los Angeles (Colburn, but if I'm wrong, correct me).
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Chopin C-major Prelude - rhythms August 06, 2007, 02:16:47 AM by getcool
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I like this piece, but I'm having a hard time with some of the rhythms.
The majority of the piece is made up of sixteenth-note triplets in 2/8 time, giving it a 6/8 feel. This is all well and good. But at measure 18 it starts to get complicated. The left hand has a sixteenth-note triplet as usual. But now, the right hand has a quintuplet figure which is damn hard to play as a quintuplet, especially on top of the left hand's triplet.
I can see what Chopin might have been getting at here; measures 18-20 all contain these quintuplet-over-triplet rhythms, and the sixteenth rest is dropped from the beginning of each of these measures (in the right hand), which overall gives these three measures a sort of "anxious" quality as they build up to the fortissimo climax at measure 21. It's as if, in breaking from the normal rhythm here, the piece has seen the goal at measure 21 and is "rushing" there.
I have listened to recordings of this piece (Daniel Barenboim is the one that currently comes to mind), and he plays it wonderfully. However, I can't really tell, no matter how hard I listen, how he's really playing these rhythms here. It definitely sounds different from the normal rhythms, but I can't really say how, other than it does indeed sound "anxious" as I describe.
So, I don't really know how to treat these measures, and I don't quite understand why this rhythm comes back again sporadically as the piece closes. After ms. 18-20, this rhythm comes back again at ms. 23, then again at ms. 25-26. Now, if I try to treat ms. 18-20 "anxiously," how am I to treat ms. 23 and 25-26? In these measures, the piece is relaxing as it moves towards the close.
How do you guys perform this piece?
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chopin prelude #1 January 28, 2007, 12:54:46 PM by pianistimo
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i realize this might sound like a rach prelude right now. i'm attempting to lighten up on it . my big question is that i recorded it twice. once with the rh completely in tune with the left in terms of the sixteenth triplets - and one - pretending it was an editors mistake on the first triplet on the top voice (and omitting it entirely). which one do you like? which one do you think chopin intended?
the first one is the way i see it written:
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Chopin Prelude No 1 October 28, 2006, 05:35:29 PM by steve jones
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Hey all,
I have a fingering problem with this piece. Im fine upto bar 15 where it appears you need to play a 5th in right hand between 3-5.
That I can do, but it just makes it pretty awkward. Does anyone have an alternative fingering for this?
Cheers!
SJ
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