Chopin: Etude opus 10 no 2
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| This is from a recital I gave two weeks ago. Steinway concert D, at Nazareth College. Chopin's A minor etude, Op. 10 No. 2. Tell me what you think! :) |
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This piece was on the list for the local music festival for high school students. My teacher was surprised and said that NOBODY is actually going to learn/play it, except maybe me (perhaps he thinks that I'm the only one who is crazy enough to try it? :o). So, according to him, I should "play with it."
After "playing" with it, I want to actually do something productive, i.e. learn it.
So, my question is two fold:
1. Should this piece be learned slowly and then gradually speeded up, or will that just lead to a speed wall?
2. Is there a hand motion/position that is necessary for playing this piece quickly?
If you have any experiences with this piece, I would really appreciate that!
Thank you! |
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| ok. here's my first take. this isn't friday yet. and, one problem i have is that i don't have it memorized - so on the page turns - i have to turn the page. i looked around to see if i had copies of it - and i don't. well, anyways - i can play fast when i want to. |
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The 1/16 chords played by the right hand at the beginning of every fourth are notated as separate voices in the score (i.e. chromatic line = stem up, chords = stem down). This seems to indicate that they should be played in a way that this voice is distinguishable from the bass chords (l.h.) and the chromatic line -- otherwise the stems would be connected to one of those lines. However, I've just listened again to a hand full of op.10/2 recordings (Pollini, Gavriolov, Berezovsky,...), and in none of those can I hear a distinct middle line. Also in Cortot's comments on the etude (in his edition at Salabert) I cannot find any remarks. So probably my question is completely stupid....
But still, to me, it seems a bit paradoxical that this line is not played more markedly. If it's not played, the piece sounds a bit like Kors-Rach's bumble bee, only that it's much more awkward to play than the latter, and you never get it to a comparable speed. In a way I would have guessed that in a concert etude, any additional difficulty should be justified musically. In other words, it would make no sense to "trap" the right hand by some additional chords, if these chords are not clearly audible. That's why I still wonder if these chords should not be played as a kind of middle voice.
On the other hand, the "melody" you get from these chords is not really cantabile, so it could even hurt the piece to bring it out too loudly. Still, I think it's a funny theme that you get if you play the upper notes from the r.h. chords (exluding the chromatic line) in the first four bars. However, from measure 19 on, it sounds more like some small children's tune that has just discovered singing...
So, I'd be very interested to hear your opinions:
* do you think Chopin wanted a middle voice, or is it just a notational idiosyncracy?
* if it's just an idiosyncracy, why didn't he write the chords connected to either the r.h. chromatic line, or to the bass?
* but if you also :
- would you play it throughout the piece, or not in measures 19ff?
- why don't the "famous" pianists play it then? Is it a tribute to their sheer speed that the voice is lost?
- have any of you recorded their own versions? Or do you know any commercial recordings with middle voice? I'd be interested in hearing any those.
Any comments appreciated... :-)
-Tobias |
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Hey
I am choosing some Chopin etudes that will improve my technique and finger independence, i have decided this would help my weak 4th and 5th fingers, and i will also take on 25/6 coz i got weak thirds! I have looked over these etudes, listened to them and decided the next etude I will play is Chopin's 10/2 Etude, Before I start learning this piece I have a couple of questions.
How should you begin to learn this, should you work on the chromatic right hand parts without the chord accompaniment or learn it slowly together from the beginning and gradually speed it up.
I got the Cortot edition from another thread, is Cortots Exercises usefull for this piece, also i don't like the Cortot finguring for this piece, its a bit confusing! is it easier though ?
any other helpful tips that will make this easier. |
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thought it would be funny to make a video of this. work in progress, obviously
http://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3K72REB27QAED3RUEOTZHOOE8S |
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Hi ! I know that Chopin's etudes are very difficult. But is there any chance that I can start working on op 10 nr 2? It sounds very difficult, but the notes seem easy (no big gaps etc.) The trickiest part is presumably the speed. I've played Chopins waltz in C sharp minor, his nocturnes op 9 nr 1 and 2, and Debussys Clair de lune. Do you think it's reasonably of me to attempt to learn this etude? (Even though it it very fast)
Take care! /lisztener |
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| mmm i just heard someone mention it has a SO HARD piece, but heard several people think it is an easier etude, so well what is it for you? |
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How hard is this piece? I would like to know before I decide to whether practice this piece or not.
I can already play Raindrop Prelude.
Thanks |
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I'm learning this piece (very slowly, i might add..)
However, right now, something hurts really bad. I'm hoping it's a muscle (thereby indicating training up weak fingers). But i'm afraid it's a tendon or some other thing that's not supposed to hurt.
Anyone else experienced any pains caused by contortion of the hand while attempting this piece? |
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