"Cocertos" or "Concerti"

[Skeptopotamus]

I see people saying concertos and concerti for plural concerto but I want to know which is really correct.  I always want to use concerti but my father who is the principal cellist of our orchestra says it's concertos.  which do you think is right?

[JCarey]

I am positive that Concerti is correct. It is Italian, after all.

[Etude]

Concerti is the correct plural of Concerto.  People say 'Concertos' because the word has been borrowed from the Italian language, and some people pluralize it with English in mind.

[steinwayguy]

It seems like I've been "concerti" a hell of a lot lately...

[Nightscape]

I suppose "concerti" is the correct term but it sounds awfully pretentious.  I use "concertos".... if enough people pronounce it one way that way will eventually become the "correct" way since pronounciation is very arbitrary.  I hear "concertos" more and more these days.... who knows?

[xvimbi]

I suppose "concerti" is the correct term but it sounds awfully pretentious.  I use "concertos".... if enough people pronounce it one way that way will eventually become the "correct" way since pronounciation is very arbitrary.  I hear "concertos" more and more these days.... who knows?

"Concerti" may sound pretentious, particularly when not pronounced correctly ("conjurty", rather than the correct "conjairty"), but "concertos", pronounced "conjurtoes", on the other hand does sound ignorant and uneducated It's a lose-lose situation.

[Nightscape]

What about "con-chair-toose"

[BoliverAllmon]

"Concerti" may sound pretentious, particularly when not pronounced correctly ("conjurty", rather than the correct "conjairty"), but "concertos", pronounced "conjurtoes", on the other hand does sound ignorant and uneducated It's a lose-lose situation.

that is why when I am unsure of the pronunciation, I just pretend like I forgot who or what I am talking about and ask the person if they know what I am talking about. I then hear how they pronounce the word and go from there. works alot of times.

boliver

[happyface94]

Even if the word has been borrowed from the Italian, it still remains that the English word "Concerto" exists. Both spelling are correct.

[Jacey1973]

I see people saying concertos and concerti for plural concerto but I want to know which is really correct.  I always want to use concerti but my father who is the principal cellist of our orchestra says it's concertos.  which do you think is right?

Oh wow i love the cello. Do you ever play any pieces for cello and piano together? I adore Bach's Cello sonata no. 3 and Rachmaninov's Cello sonata in G minor, ever heard them? Wish my parents had been in the slightest bit musical. I might have had a bit more of a head start then!

[hazypurple21]

How about scherzos vs. scherzi?

[BoliverAllmon]

Oh wow i love the cello. Do you ever play any pieces for cello and piano together? I adore Bach's Cello sonata no. 3 and Rachmaninov's Cello sonata in G minor, ever heard them? Wish my parents had been in the slightest bit musical. I might have had a bit more of a head start then!

if you enjoy those check shostakovich piano and cello sonata. real good stuff.

[Bouter Boogie]

Concerti!

[Bouter Boogie]

How about scherzos vs. scherzi?

Scherzi! Duh

[xvimbi]

Italian for beginners:

For regular masculine nouns that end in -o, the ending changes to -i in the plural:

concerto - concerti
scherzo - scherzi
tempo - tempi
espresso - espressi
 

Regular feminine nouns that end in -a take on -e endings in the plural:

penna - penne
pizza - pizze
farmata - fermate

Nouns that end in -e take on -i endings in the plural, regardless of whether these nouns are masculine or feminine:

padre - padri

[Skeptopotamus]

Italian for beginners:

For regular masculine nouns that end in -o, the ending changes to -i in the plural:

concerto - concerti
scherzo - scherzi
tempo - tempi
espresso - espressi
 

Regular feminine nouns that end in -a take on -e endings in the plural:

penna - penne
pizza - pizze
farmata - fermate

Nouns that end in -e take on -i endings in the plural, regardless of whether these nouns are masculine or feminine:

padre - padri

and did you know liquid turns to liquefy?

[xvimbi]

and did you know liquid turns to liquefy?

Sorry, I thought your were interested in a serious answer to your question. I must have been mistaken.

[c18cont]

So....What do you use,

When you have more than one Ford Focus.....

John

[frederic]

OR!

glissandos or glissandi?!

haha glissandi! cracks me up!

[danyal]

Depends what language you're speaking.

[c18cont]

So it's different for language differences....

So what is it in pig Latin?

John

[c18cont]

And by the way...,

I always did like the various feminine forms.......................

John

[trix]

to-ma-toes or to-mah-toes?
po-ta-toes or po-tah-toes?





ah let's just call the whole damn thing off....

[allthumbs]

concerto

con·cer·to [k?n cháirto] (plural con·cer·tos or con·cer·ti  [k?n cháirtee]) noun

1.musical composition for soloist and orchestra: an instrumental work for orchestra that highlights a soloist or group of soloists
2.organ-accompanied voices: in music before 1650, a work for voices with organ or continuo

[Early 18th century. From Italian, of uncertain immediate origin: possibly from Latin concertus, the past participle of concernere,

Encarta® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1999,2000 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Developed for Microsoft by Bloomsbury Publishing Plc.


As you can see, this source gives both spellings.

Cheers

allthumbs

[apion]

concerto

con·cer·to [k?n cháirto] (plural con·cer·tos or con·cer·ti  [k?n cháirtee]) noun

Yes, they're both correct (I use concerti most often). 

[princessdecadence]

I'm used to saying concertos *blush* I'll say concerti from now

[ahinton]

to-ma-toes or to-mah-toes?
po-ta-toes or po-tah-toes?





ah let's just call the whole *** thing off....

Ah yes, indeed - but it is a well known fact that the authentic ending to this one is
"let's Carl the whole thing Orff".

Now - given the capacity in this forum for attracting plenteous commentary of all kinds about a certain famous piano work by Sorabji, let us perhaps consider in the present context the terms "Opus" and "Opera"; should we be expected to conclude from any such consideration that inveterate stage composers such as Mozart, Donizetti, Wagner, Verdi, Strauss, Puccini, Henze, Britten et al all also aspired to create series of vast multi-hour piano works but never quite got around to their composition?

Just to add to the fray, let us consider also the fact that a certain great American composer wrote a piece during World War II which is known to this day as his "Symphony No. 1" yet - despite there never having been anything which the said composer has subsequently chosen to entitle "Symphony No. 2" - what is arguably his greatest orchestral piece of all, from more than half a century later, is nevertheless called "Symphonia".

And finally, let us remember that the second and third of the five movements of Busoni's monumental piano concerto are respectively entitled "pizza giocosa" and "pizza seriosa" - and he was an Italian, so who should argue with this?

Now, before I write anything even sillier than that, I will shut up and stop.

Best,

Alistair

[stevie]

well, ill be orff.

now im bach!

that was fun, i think ill be offenbach again.


inordinately.