Preparatory Repertoire for Chopin op. 10 no. 7

[lucasdopandeiro]

What would you guys advise?

Thanks in advance!
Lucas

[allchopin]

I would almost say that this etude IS preparatory rep. for this type of rudiment.  For instance, the 10/7 might prepare you for something like Rachmaninoff's 39/3 or Prokofiev's Tocatta.  If you want it, jump right into it.

[Barbosa-piano]

 Hmmm... This is a very good preparatory Etude for toccata style pieces as Schumann's Toccata or Prokofiev's Toccata. This is about two independent motions of the hand, demanding a lot from the wrist. I would practice the main motions of the right hand, to get used to it, and I believe Gradus ad Parnassum's 1st Etude could help with wrist force. But I hold on to the thought that Alfred Cortot's preparatory exercises are the best for this occasion, they go right down to it. I can't think of any preparatory repertoire pieces that deal with the same technique.

Lucas, ai no Rio tem muitos sebos vendendo livros velhos, certo? Eu fui ai, e comprei a edicao de Alfred Cortot original de 1923 (Estudos de Chopin) por um preco muito barato (4 Reais, eu acho) a nao ser que voce queira um novo, que e mais dificil de achar. Eu acredito que essa e a melhor edicao dos Estudos de Chopin, por que contem muitos exercicios que te ajudam no problema tecnico especifico para cada estudo. Depois de treinar os pequenos exercicios, voce parte para o Estudo na pagina seguinte. Agora tocando os Estudos fica bem mais facil do que antes, voce ja sabe a tecnica, agora basta memorizar as posicoes diferentes. 

Mario Barbosa

[lucasdopandeiro]

I didn't count on the one... 

So, what would be the approach to this piece then?

[nanabush]

O god, I can't play 2 measures of that up to speed, and I wanted to try the Prok Tocatta  I've gotta pay more attention to what I should stay away from...

[lucasdopandeiro]

I'm bringing this up in hope Bernhard comes with his list.........

[lucasdopandeiro]

Sandor, in his book, puts this etude next to Liszt's Transcendental Etude no. 5 ("Feux Follets") and Schumann's Toccata op. 7, but I don't think they are easy enough to be considered preparatory repertoire (maybe the contrary, chopin would prepare for both).

Thanks in advance to all,
Lucas