Piano Street - piano sheet music
October 11, 2008, 10:07:03 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
   Forum Home   Help Search  
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: most powerful climax in music history?  (Read 2573 times)
stevie
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2838


« on: December 28, 2005, 08:08:41 AM »

mahler 2nd symphony, in the middle of the 1st movement, before the return of the opening theme

nothing can beat that, surely!
Logged
pita bread
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 1137


« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2005, 08:12:33 AM »

Prokofiev - Piano Concerto #2, Mvt. 1 Cadenza - Orchestra reentry
Ravel - La Valse, you know where.
Logged
pita bread
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 1137


« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2005, 08:14:04 AM »

Webern - Passacaglia for Orchestra, all over the place.
Logged
brewtality
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 953


« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2005, 08:20:08 AM »

Rach 1 and Alkan Grande Sonata (the quasi faust). These are two which spring to mind.
Logged

panic
PS Silver Member
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 196


« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2005, 10:33:15 AM »

mahler 2nd symphony, in the middle of the 1st movement, before the return of the opening theme

nothing can beat that, surely!

?!?!!

THE VERY END, MAN! THE END OF THE FINALE!
(is the most powerful ending in all of music)
Logged
crazy for ivan moravec
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 602


« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2005, 10:43:18 AM »

how about rach 3rd concerto climaxes?
Logged
kghayesh
PS Gold Member
Sr. Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 487


« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2005, 11:08:13 AM »

What about the climaxes in the 1st movement of the Tchaikovsky Bb minor piano concerto. I think it beats everything here
Logged
mephisto
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 1525


« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2005, 12:06:18 PM »

Scrabin; 4th sonata at the end of the 2nd movement.
Logged
brahmsian
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 270


« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2005, 03:24:45 PM »

how about rach 3rd concerto climaxes?

Agreed. The ossia cadenza kills all.
Logged

Chuck Norris didn't lose his virginity- he systematically tracked it down and destroyed it.
musik_man
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 774


« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2005, 03:32:24 PM »

mahler 2nd symphony, in the middle of the 1st movement, before the return of the opening theme

nothing can beat that, surely!

I was thinking of that exact moment when this page was loading. Cool
Logged

/)_/)
(^.^)
((__))o
thalbergmad
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 8928


« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2005, 04:55:38 PM »

The Wagner-Liszt-Tristan & Isolde is one huge musical orgasm.
Logged

Jazz is great - millions of people cannot be wrong
Eat crap - millions of flies cannot be wrong
quantum
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2339


« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2005, 09:00:37 PM »

Scrabin; 4th sonata at the end of the 2nd movement.

 Cool

The entire sonata is one huge gradual climax. 
Logged

Made a Liszt. Need new Handel's for Soler panel & Alkan foil. Will Faure Stein on the way to pick up Mendels' sohn. Josquin get Wolfgangs Schu with Clara. Gone Chopin, I'll be Bach
panic
PS Silver Member
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 196


« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2005, 09:00:43 PM »

Actually, an imcomparably powerful moment that comes to mind is in the third movement of Beethoven's op. 132 string quartet, about two minutes from the end, when all instruments are engaged in a heartfelt fortissimo passage. That is one of the most poignant passages I have ever heard.

The middle, D major section of the Bach-Busoni Chaconne is also pretty powerful.
Logged
gorbee natcase
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 739


« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2005, 10:45:12 PM »

Starwars 1st scene when the destroyer passes over the camera and gets bigger and bigger
Logged

(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)      What ever Bernhard said
I Love Xenakis
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 424


« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2005, 11:55:23 PM »

mahler 2nd symphony, in the middle of the 1st movement, before the return of the opening theme

nothing can beat that, surely!


When you were watching da NA's Chopin Competition videos Wink
Logged

(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)


Lau is my new PF hero ^^
tompilk
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Online Online

Posts: 1246


« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2005, 09:12:21 PM »

Rach 3 cadenza in first movement... WOW!!! It has to be the Ossia version though... it makes me cry... as does the end of the piece...those octaves are amazing. I have learnt the last page of rach 2 (the easiest part actually! LOL!) ... now it is the rach 3 final page...
Talking about Rahc 3 cadenza Ossia... anybody got a good quality version? I got a really bad scan...
Logged

Working on: Schubert - Piano Sonata D.664, Ravel - Sonatine, Ginastera - Danzas Argentinas
musicsdarkangel
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 978


« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2005, 09:22:08 PM »

when I think climax, I think Rachmaninoff


how about the 18th variation in the Rhapsody?

or basically half of the 3rd concerto?

and because I think Rachmaninoff, you know that this includes Tchaikovsky.

I think concertos usually have bigger climaxes, because there is a whole orchestra adding in as well.

The tremelos ascending in the Scarbo of Gaspard are also quite a climax.
Logged
pita bread
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 1137


« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2005, 09:24:32 PM »

The repeated-chord climaxes in Sorabji Piano Sonata #1 get pretty massive.
Logged
steveie986
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 392


« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2005, 11:07:34 PM »

Beethoven's Grosse Fuge op. 133 is one unbearably beautiful climax.
Also Maurizio Pollini's interpretation of the third movement of Prokofiev's piano sonata no. 7.
Lang Lang's recording of the third movement of the Tchaikovsky's no. 1.

Also that love scene in The Red Violin.
Logged
g_s_223
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 290


« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2005, 12:06:44 AM »

Most of Scriabin's larger orchestral works seem to end in a pretty cosmic fashion...

Also I rather like Respighi's "The Pines of Rome" at the end as the victorious legions march imperiously down the Appian Way and into Rome in glorious procession.

Piano-wise, the climax of the Liszt Sonata is definitive.
Logged
apion
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 759


« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2005, 12:10:37 AM »

The climax to the development section of Brahms Piano Concerto No. 1 when the piano utters the main theme after descending chords and a timpani roll.  Cool
Logged
pianistimo
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 12081


« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2005, 01:04:14 AM »

the goings on of the ending of the first movement of the waldstein (going into a fugue and then out) is somehow an endless climax of music to me.

maybe, also, the ending of the 1812 overture? 

or, the ending of beethoven's 9th (trite, i know, but i still like it)

or, the ending of mussorgsky's 'pics at an exhibition.'  i think it's the only piece that i've been highly excited by.  of course, it was the 1985? tchaikovsky competition with barry douglas playing it.

Logged

'all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.'  edmund burke
pita bread
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 1137


« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2005, 01:07:02 AM »

Ending of Scriabin Prometheus.
Logged
pianistimo
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 12081


« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2005, 01:55:18 AM »

where can i listen to the entire prometheus?  and possibly his fourth symphony (in C major) entitled 'poem of ecstasy'?  amazon has the beginning - but vladimir ashkenazy comes in later - and i wanted to hear the whole thing.
Logged

'all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.'  edmund burke
Teddybear
PS Silver Member
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 191


« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2005, 10:09:57 AM »

Also I rather like Respighi's "The Pines of Rome" at the end as the victorious legions march imperiously down the Appian Way and into Rome in glorious procession.

Me too!
Logged

Teddybear

  (>"<)
('(ö,   )")
  '(¥   )/
   ¿.¿.J
thalbergmad
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 8928


« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2005, 10:49:34 AM »


or, the ending of mussorgsky's 'pics at an exhibition.'  i think it's the only piece that i've been highly excited by.  of course, it was the 1985? tchaikovsky competition with barry douglas playing it.



I would submit you were more excited by Douglas than Mussorgsky.
Logged

Jazz is great - millions of people cannot be wrong
Eat crap - millions of flies cannot be wrong
ryguillian
PS Silver Member
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 240


« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2005, 08:35:10 PM »

Near the end of the Passacaglia from “Opus Clavicembalisticum” as played by John Ogdon.

—Ryan
Logged

“Our civilization is decadent and our language—so the argument runs—must inevitably share in the general collapse.”
Politics and the English Language, an essay by George Orwell
pianistimo
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 12081


« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2005, 05:06:21 AM »

dear thalbergmad,

i would say that you would be right, had they not shown video clips of various places around moscow - the people, the sites, etc. while he was playing.  then, of course, the gate of kiev.  it impressed me that an irishman could take on the 'russian' feel and outlook and even feel of the weather (so to speak) and transform the piece as if he were a full blooded russian.

of course, he's not bad looking - so that doesn't hurt.  if i did not know what he looked like - i would still like his playing.  what impresses me, too, is that he is an all around musician.  he composes, plays, and also now conducts.  ok.  this is in excess - but bringing music to ireland is an all consuming passion to him, too, and he's done much to improve the musical atmosphere there.

ps the only recording that reminds me of barry's interpretation is leopold stokowsky's - and it was for orchestra - so barry's interpretation for piano (to me) was very orchestrated in tone/timbre and palette of sounds.  whatever he did, it was as effective as using various instruments for interest.

 
Logged

'all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.'  edmund burke
pita bread
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 1137


« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2005, 05:23:41 AM »

I'll upload the Prometheus once my internet stops acting up.
Logged
shoenberg3
PS Silver Member
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 229


« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2005, 05:53:59 AM »

Surely, the biggest climax is from Ravel's Bolero.
Logged

generally working on:
Bach Toccata in g minor
Rachmaninoff 3rd Concerto
I Love Xenakis
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 424


« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2005, 06:07:44 AM »

This one where I was with four other dudes once...


aha



o

music





k


um



Corigliano Symphony No. 1 or maybe Busoni Concerto
Logged

(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)


Lau is my new PF hero ^^
donjuan
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3174


« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2005, 06:21:21 AM »

My vote is for Tchaikovsky's "Pathetique" Symphony No. 6 - 1st movement about 3/4 the way through in with that dark and thunderous trombone motif.  I heard this live! wow, my seat was literally shaking when that part came on. 

For piano music, I would say the final buildup and ending of Bach-Busoni: Chaconne in D minor.

donjuan
Logged
apion
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 759


« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2005, 01:01:31 PM »

Surely, the biggest climax is from Ravel's Bolero.

Biggest crescendo does not = Biggest Climax.  To me, a climax occurs when there is a definitive convergence of tensions which results in the unleashing of dramatic energy.
Logged
mostlyclassical
PS Silver Member
Newbie
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 23


« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2006, 09:12:49 AM »

Schubert's 'Great' symphony, 1st movement's finale. (as performed by Muti + Wiener Phil.)
Logged
panic
PS Silver Member
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 196


« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2006, 11:14:19 AM »

I don't know about most powerful, but best climax ever is definitely the way end of the Ravel-Sorabji Feria. It sounds like a giant yellow happy face coming towards the screen and increasing in size and then knocking over the cameraman on the last chord. Or maybe I'm nuts.
Logged
sevencircles
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 633


« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2006, 08:16:52 PM »

i love xenakis: What´s the biggest climax in a Xenakis work?

The finale of Jonchaies and Pithoprakta comes to mind.
Logged
lisztisforkids
PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 885


« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2006, 09:34:28 PM »

Beethovens 5th symphony 2 movement.
Logged

we make God in mans image
panic
PS Silver Member
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 196


« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2006, 10:18:16 PM »

Forgot to mention: the 1887 coda to Bruckner's 8th.
Logged
finn magnus
PS Silver Member
Newbie
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 19


« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2006, 10:23:48 PM »

Tchaikovskys 4th symphony, 4th mvm, the ending. Here I just have to stand up and wave with my arms like a conductor  Cool

Bruckners 2nd (I think it is the second but sure) symphony, the ending. It saw it in the movie "As it is in heaven"

The Tannhäuser overtyre, the transcription by Liszt.
Logged
lazenca
PS Silver Member
Newbie
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 1


« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2006, 07:30:29 PM »

Here's a few ideas...

Chopin's 4th Ballade: The third theme leading to the finale, and of course the finale.
Chopin's 2nd Ballade: The finale
Rachmaninoff's Third Piano Concerto: 2nd Movement -- two consecutive climactic phrases in the middle.
Alkan's Grande Sonate Les Quatre Ages: 1st Movement - Recap of lyric theme towards the end.
Franck's Symphony in D minor: 3rd Movement -- Recap of theme from 2nd movement variations.
Liszt's Sonata in B minor: 2nd movement -- Climax before transition to 3rd movement
Godowsky's Kunsterleben Paraphrase: Finale

There's much much more.