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« on: March 04, 2006, 08:17:14 PM »
Who thinks that "Practise" videos, of our piano practise or section, that we do each day would be interesting? We could upload the videos and show just our day to day practising... any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2006, 09:38:46 PM »
I absolutely abhor the thought of someone watching me practice myself, but if anyone is willing to do it, I'd be willing to watch out of curiosity.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2006, 10:17:53 PM »
i hate people watching me, but it's different with a camera i think... and the thing is, with these videos, we could see how people really are and we could analyse them to help ourselves without picking and saying what was wrong. We could use the videos to everyones benefit, because no slating of peoples performance would be relevant. Do you not agree?
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2006, 11:33:49 PM »
Yeah, I do, I just wouldn't do it  myself  Tongue. But I'd be glad to helpfully comment on other people's.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2006, 09:20:03 PM »
yeah itd be good, could see how other people practice, how they go a bout memorising pieces - nice to see someone playing something that isnt polished to perfection! cept if i did it ud prob all think i have the worst technique/attention span ever...
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2006, 09:34:57 PM »
Think it is great! It can tell you so much more than all the words here... Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2006, 12:10:42 AM »
Someone showing a performance or their technique would be interesting.  Finished or unfinished. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2006, 06:41:31 AM »
I'd love to do this! I'm going to borrow my brother's camcorder and film myself playing chopin preludes 4 and 6, and also my friends composition. Should I post the video in this topic for you guys to look at?
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2006, 07:25:42 AM »
Quote from: henrah on March 06, 2006, 06:41:31 AM
I'd love to do this! I'm going to borrow my brother's camcorder and film myself playing chopin preludes 4 and 6, and also my friends composition. Should I post the video in this topic for you guys to look at?
that would be fantastic!
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2006, 12:25:39 PM »
That a great idea Smiley Do an exagerated slow one and a fast one, and technique sollutions for people who are asking specific questions on a piece rather us writing notes all over the page like this
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           CA        DD               etc etc Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2006, 02:57:21 PM »

Sounds like a GREAT idea to me Tom. Only thing is it means I have get a vid camera!
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2006, 06:56:09 PM »
Wait a minute, practice vids are only the beginning. What would be even cooler would be live online practice video, done with a USB camera and mic attached to a laptop sitting on the piano! You could announce your practice schedule someplace like this, and provide the link for everyone to get at your webcam. Then at the appointed hour, the world could tune in for a live practice performance!  Egad, wouldn't that help focus the mind on one's practicing! Once everyone gets the idea of this, a special board might be set up just to track online practice schedules, and people could flip between various people's live practices one after another.  Progress could be tracked and commented on by dozens of musicians around the world!

Only problem I can see with this is that the European brothers and sisters might tend to practice mostly at 2 a.m.  Wink so I might have a hard time tuning in...

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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2006, 07:00:48 PM »
that would be awesome...
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2006, 05:09:16 PM »
OK, I've uploaded a video of me playing my friends composition, and am currently uploading chopin preludes 4&6. Video can be found here. I messed up in my LH around 2:20 because I was concentrating too much on my RH, which I don't normally do and I have no idea why I was Undecided I also messed up very slightly shortly after that, explaining the sudden diminuendo. Also at 2:55, on the repeated octaves in LH, I faltered and played two too close together; and also a slight mistake in the last chords.

Please crit this to hell, as I don't think I'm quite there yet in terms of my own interpretation and general musicality of the whole piece. I can play it much, much better when I'm stoned; maybe because cannabis is an introrespective drug, and that I can get into the music a lot better. But yeah, please 'go to town' when criting my playing; the more detail the better Grin

Chopin Preludes 4&6 coming soon!
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2006, 05:33:22 PM »
Here's Prelude No.4

I played this one twice because, after I finished the first one, I thought I played it too robotically and not very musically. Also got a couple of places wrong, near to the end.

Please crit this also; I need the feedback!
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2006, 05:47:16 PM »
Here's Prelude No.6

It's only bigger than the rest because I was testing the quality at that size, and it's not so good. I missed an acciaccatura at some place, too hastened to find it now so just listen out for a sudden hard note that doesn't sound right; or where you know there is one.

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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2006, 05:51:29 PM »
thanks... im downloading them now... ill report to you with what i think when ive watched them!
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2006, 05:35:38 PM »
Awesome, can't wait to hear what you think!
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2006, 06:12:00 PM »
watched the first one, just downloading the 2nd. i cant comment much, i havent learned a Chopin Prelude. Good overall, but a few random jerky moments, and one or two random louder chords which dont fit in.

could you show something that needs technical working? would be good to see how you work around those kind of problems.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2006, 06:14:41 PM »
the compoition is awesome...
thanks a lot.. is sheet music vailable?  Cool what price?  Cool
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2006, 06:18:24 PM »
Thanks gruff! Could you give me the times of the jerky movements and the chords that dont fit in please so I can look at them and either conclude why they happen or try and fix them?

As for technical working, yes I can! I shall film myself trying Gnomenreigen. I have quite a few difficulties with it, and have not learnt all of it (2pages to go). I shall post that when I can.

Tom: sheet music is available! But I must phone my friend first to see if he will allow it to be shown publicly. And if it's possible to show it, it will most definately be free...methinks...
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2006, 06:53:25 PM »
henrah, you playd the chopin prelude  num4 really well,very expressive. Its not exactly easy is it. Nice piano BTW. Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2006, 06:58:30 PM »
Thankyou very much zheer! And no, it sure isn't easy! Especially when it comes to keeping the LH volume steady, and all notes equal. Btw did you notice that during the first measure (before the RH changes to an A) I played it differently in the two takes? I keep forgetting which way it goes lol Tongue
Oh and the piano is a Fazioli 228, a lush piano but it is starting to falter. Some notes are very tangy, and it wanders slightly when holding down notes (I can hear a 'wowowowow' like change), but still a delight to play on.

As for the sheet music to the serenade, I am allowed to post it! However, I cannot find a way to save it out of Sibelius into a .pdf. Can anyone advise me how to do so?
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2006, 07:02:27 PM »
Ok, here is the Serenade in Sibelius 2 format. I don't know if it will be openable in Sibelius 1, but I do know that Sibelius 3 will open it no problem.

I shall see about filming Gnomenreigen tonight,
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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2006, 07:15:17 PM »
Quote from: henrah on March 09, 2006, 06:58:30 PM
. Btw did you notice that during the first measure (before the RH changes to an A) I played it differently in the two takes? I keep forgetting which way it goes lol Tongue


  I really dont give a dam about wrong notes, especially when someone plays with honesty and expression, and thats exactly what you did. Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2006, 07:25:53 PM »
yeah... im amazed by the performance... like a pro... (are you???). I thought you played them better than some recordings i have!
Thanks for sharing these with us... and for teh sheets...
Tom
PS Im glad someone posted a video.. now lets get others up! Ill put one up as soon as i have time... ive put a bit of my own arrangement of the not-so-strident parts of "United People Will Never Be Defeated" but it's, as i say, my own changes to the parts i play. Anyone interested? i suppose this is a "practise video" thread so it can't hurt, but i dont want to loose valuable "piano-street-cred" by me not playing the score...
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2006, 07:56:37 PM »
Quote from: zheer on March 09, 2006, 07:15:17 PM
I really dont give a dam about wrong notes, especially when someone plays with honesty and expression, and thats exactly what you did. Smiley

It's wonderful that you think so zheer! Thankyou again!!

Quote from: tompilk on March 09, 2006, 07:25:53 PM
yeah... im amazed by the performance... like a pro... (are you???). I thought you played them better than some recordings i have!

Grin No I'm not a pro, but it's a delightful compliment to receive! Grin

Quote from: tompilk on March 09, 2006, 07:25:53 PM
Thanks for sharing these with us... and for teh sheets...

You're very welcome!

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ive put a bit of my own arrangement of the not-so-strident parts of "United People Will Never Be Defeated" but it's, as i say, my own changes to the parts i play. Anyone interested? i suppose this is a "practise video" thread so it can't hurt, but i dont want to loose valuable "piano-street-cred" by me not playing the score...
Tom

I'm very interested, I've never heard it before. And I'm sure that you won't loose any cred by playing your own arrangement; it would be a silly thing to loose respect over! In fact, I forgot to mention it as I hadn't looked at the score to the Serenade for a while, but I made quite a few changes to it! Some unconsciously making it easier for me, and some to make it more my own and sound nicer to me.

Thankyou again for your kind words guys, it means a hell of a lot to me!
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2006, 08:22:21 PM »

Tom,

You know what would be cool dont you - if someone with SKILLS did some scales and arpeggios at various angles, so we could really get a good look at the movements.

I'd be fascinated to see the Etude 10-1 from various angles, as I have no clue how this technique is surposed to be performed!
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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2006, 08:28:09 PM »
yeah. unfortunately im not near that standard at all... and my scales are far from perfect... and ive just done my grade 8 and therefore dont ever need them again unless they are in pieces... i vowed never to play scales again for the "kick"...
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2006, 08:28:45 PM »
Yes, that would be fantastically educational to watch, especially in slo motion! If it's possible, someone who can whiz up and down through scales and arps- please video it and post it here!
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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2006, 08:53:37 PM »

Btw, Henrah, you're playing is very good mate!

Im doing these exact same preludes (also 20 and 9). Prelude 6 featured in this years AB Gr6 syllabus, yet I didnt feel is was that difficult - whats your thought on this? Imo, 4 is harder (music considerations and all).

No 9 is harder than it sounds! I have the chords, but getting it all sounding right (with the right voicing and shite) is difficult.
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2006, 09:00:33 PM »
I found No.6 fairly difficult as I hadn't yet come across a piece that involved the LH singing the melody and the RH playing quietly, so it was quite a challenge to get my RH playing softly. However, in terms of learning it, playing it and memorising it, it was fairly easy. I agree with No.4 being quite harder than No.6, especially keeping all notes of the chords even and at the same volume (disregarding crescendos etc).

I shall give No.9 a shot as I just can't seem to get myself to learn No.15- the Raindrop Prelude....but I'll get to it eventually...when the time comes ehhe...

Just gonna go film myself playing Gnomenreigen, then go through it and what I did to learn certain parts, and certain parts that still need learning.
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2006, 09:02:06 PM »
Time for some recruitment  Grin

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