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Schumann Op.68 #28 (Erinnerung)
« on: April 22, 2006, 03:08:48 AM »

This is a beautiful piece written by Schumann in memory of his friend Mendelssohn. Can someone help me "outline" this piece a' la Bernhard? I mean I would like to know how to plan the piece in sessions.

Is there a similar Heller piece anybody knows of?

Thanks in advance!

Morton

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Re: Schumann Op.68 #28 (Erinnerung)
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2006, 08:53:09 PM »

Bump... please help.

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Re: Schumann Op.68 #28 (Erinnerung)
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2006, 04:20:58 AM »

I was looking for help planning the piece into sessions like Bernhard does for several other pieces on the forum.
On that note, would it be possible to make a separate sub-thread (child-board?) in the student's corner where all such detalied session by session plans(or requests thereof) for pieces are posted/documented. It really helps beginners like me.

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Re: Schumann Op.68 #28 (Erinnerung)
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2006, 10:34:52 AM »

Dear morton,

No-one can give you a good estimation about how big the sections should be. This is different from individual to individual and depends on your already gathered technique, your memory and thousands of other things.

Just sit at the piano and see for yourself how big these sections are for you. Maybe try 2 bars at first (with overlapping one or two beats in the third bar) - if haven't mastered them after the famous 20 minutes, try only one bar at a time. If you can manage 2 bars easily then you can perhaps go for 3 or 4 bars at a time. See, someone just starting learning piano may have trouble with one-bar-sections, but a professional pianist may learn the whole piece in just one session. It entirely depends on yourself...

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Re: Schumann Op.68 #28 (Erinnerung)
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2006, 12:29:45 PM »

agreed with fon.  when you are able to repeat a dynamic section (which often repeats the exact notes) -you will feel that that section was really worth learning as it bumped you forward twice.  you don't want monotony with schumann.  maybe learning a little poetry at the same time and singing it with your music will remind you of the rhythms/melody/ and sometimes even notes!  (if the word matches the note). 

i like to use this sort of 'singing' technique with brahms, too.  it helps you also understand the piece.  errinerung means 'memory' right?  there's a poem somewhere here on the internet of the poem schumann was deriving this piece from.  i think from 'knaben wunderhorn.'  it's in german here:  http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/arnim/wundhorn/wundhorn.htm

something about the memory of a loved one and get into the feeling of what is actually the present.  is someone present when they are here or also when they are gone?  he remembers all the pleasant times as here and now and yet also past and present - making the loved one a fullness of reality.
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