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Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« on: May 26, 2006, 03:29:27 PM »

Hi,
Wonder how should I start up with Ravel. Anyone may can give me some suggestion, or list his work from easier pieces to more difficult pieces, in a progressive manner according to difficulty?

Thank you.
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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2006, 05:05:32 PM »

GOOD FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO RAVEL.

1.  PRELUDE----SINGLE PIECE
2.  SONATINE  MOVEMENTS 2--1---3
3.  MOTHER GOOSE SUITE  2 PIANO 0R DUET
4.  LOOK OVER SOME OF THE VALSES FROM VALSE NOBLES ET SENTIMENTAL
5.  MINUET FROM LE TOMBEAU DE COUPERIN

THERE ARE ALSO SOME SINGLE PIECE IN "HOMMAGE TO " VARIOUS PEOPLE

HOPE THIS HELPS

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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2006, 06:53:35 PM »

Of course the Piano Concerto and the Gaspard de la Nuit are among the hardest.

btw, is it really necessecary to write in capital letters?
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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2006, 07:44:26 PM »

I asked a similar question and got no replies.

1. Prelude (I would look into something harder than this)
2. Pavane pour une infante defunte (sp?)/La Valle de las Cloches (Miroirs)/Menuet from Tombeau de Couperin
3. Oiseaux Tristes (Miroirs)
4. Noctuelles (Miroirs)
5. Sonatine (2nd mvt is easiest.  I had a harder time in getting the right tone for the 1st mvt than the 3rd, which is otherwise the hardest).

From here on I'm guessing, because no one replied to me in the topic i posted a while ago! (the people at PW actually helped but I never got a clear answer).

6. The other movements from Tombeau (except toccata)
7. Une Barque sur l'Ocean (Miroirs).  Said by some to be kinder on the hands than Jeux d'eau.
8. Jeux d'eau/Toccata (Tombeau de Couperin).  Jeux d'eau is harder interpretively, while Toccata is harder technically and empty in musicality compared to Jeux d'eau.
9. Alborada del Gracioso (Miroirs).  Double glissandi, tremolos all over the place...ugh.  The ending gets the audience cheering.  my dream piece.
10.  Gaspard de la Nuit.  I wouldn't say any movement is harder than another.  They each have their own challenges/
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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2006, 07:50:58 PM »

Does anyone have the sheet music for Tombeau de Couperin??? I'd very much like to have this!
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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2006, 10:52:57 PM »

Somewhat progressive:

Easiest:
Prélude
Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn
A la maniere de Borodin
A la maniere de Chabrier
Pavane pour une infante défunte
Some of the Valses nobles et sentimentales

Moderate:
Some of the Valses nobles et sentimentales
Menuet from Tombeau de Couperin
Menuet Antique
Sonatine - 1 (& 2) movements
La vallée des cloches
Oiseaux tristes

Hard:
Sonatine 3rd movement
The rest of Tombeau de Couperin
the rest of Miroirs
jeux d'eaux
Piano Concerto in G Major
Gaspard de la nuit

I'm not really sure of where to put the Left-hand Piano Concerto, since the only thing that's really hard about it is the Cadenza...
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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2006, 11:06:53 PM »

the first ravel piece i did was the sonatine. it wasnt a bad pick i dont think. you can also try the valses nobles et sentimentales.
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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2006, 11:31:11 PM »

My [only] piece from Ravel is the Sonatine.  I'd say if you can't play the first movement technically, then the third is out of the question, and the second will still be quite difficult.
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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2006, 02:25:40 PM »

Thanks. That's very helpful of you.

I can't help but deeply in love with Jeux d'eau and Ondine, in Gaspard. Attempting them for few months already, but want to give up for awhile.

I watch Ritcher and Martha played the Jeux d'eau (online) and couldnt sleep whole nite.  Embarrassed
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Re: Ravel piano repertoire in progressive manner.
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2006, 02:32:00 PM »

I asked a similar question and got no replies.

1. Prelude (I would look into something harder than this)
2. Pavane pour une infante defunte (sp?)/La Valle de las Cloches (Miroirs)/Menuet from Tombeau de Couperin
3. Oiseaux Tristes (Miroirs)
4. Noctuelles (Miroirs)
5. Sonatine (2nd mvt is easiest.  I had a harder time in getting the right tone for the 1st mvt than the 3rd, which is otherwise the hardest).

I wouldn't include the Noctuelles in the same league as the others suggested here. Noctuelles is the same standard as Une Barque and Alborada; but because it is shorter, some people think it isn't
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