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So Whos the best?
And Why?
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Uh..... Your absolutley out of your mind if you can compare these two!
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How can you compare these two? why? How can you label someone better than someone else - especially when there of the highest order? what's with all these threads!
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Chopin wins because he had stronger striking ability and better ground skills, so Tchaikovsky would tap out from a rear naked choke or armbar, or get knocked out in one round.
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Quote from: brewtality on July 02, 2006, 01:36:20 AM
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concurred. there is no contest here.
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The only area where these two overlap (and thus can be compared) is piano solo and piano concerti; Gee, I wonder who is the better composer for piano
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July 02, 2006, 07:04:58 AM »
For me.... tchaikovskys piano concerto no 1 is the only composition that comes close to chopin. But after my own taste, chopins piano concerto still beats tchaikovsky. And so does all of chopins solo competitions. By the way...Tchaikovsky didnt write fantasy impromputu, ballade no 1, and revolutionary etude....hehe.
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This is the worst possible choice of composers for a comparison I've seen yet. Everyone knows that Chopin sucked writing for orchestra and Tchaikovsky sucked writing for piano...How can you compare the two?
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Quote from: sergei r on July 02, 2006, 11:52:09 AM
This is the worst possible choice of composers for a comparison I've seen yet. Everyone knows that Chopin sucked writing for orchestra and Tchaikovsky sucked writing for piano...How can you compare the two?
I thought his Piano Concerto was pretty cool.
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Quote from: moi_not_toi on July 05, 2006, 09:41:09 PM
I thought his Piano Concerto was pretty cool.
The Concerti of Chopin are some of my favs, but let's face it...
Chopin's piano concerti focus too much on the piano to get that effective tension between the soloist and the ensemble. The orchestral writing is banal, even if it does compliment the piano, it still doesn't stand on its own. That's why he's been critiqued so much for it.
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Quote from: brewtality on July 02, 2006, 01:36:20 AM
*snore*
I have to admit, I'm getting sick of these crap comparisons, too. Instead, how about...
Arnold to Quisling?
Ford to Ferrari?
Bill Nye, the Science Guy to Albert Einstein?
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ok lets be a little less harsh to danny
I vote for chopin, because he wrote the best piano music (but not that prolific really).
Tchaikovsky is a bit boring to me and yes his piano concerto is good but it does get a bit boring after a while after the 100th time... lol. I suppose even the Rach concertos can get a little same-y after a while. But other than the concertos (1-3 and the piano/orchestra piece) he didnt create any masterpieces.
I dont like the ballet music... nor the orchestra stuff.
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July 07, 2006, 11:49:26 PM »
Tompilk, what do you think of the operas? I'm quite in love with Eugene Onegin.
I've read somewhere or another that Tchaikovsky was actually best known as an opera composer in his day.
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Greetings.
I just don't understand the morale in comparing any two persons, let alone two individual composers. Chopin's music is very good: look at any of his compositions for the piano and such. Tchaikovsky is very good too: look at his operas, ballet music, orchestral pieces, and such.
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July 08, 2006, 01:02:30 PM »
Hello every body..
I'm a new member.. I'm Kurdish from Kurdistan-Iraq.. so sorry if my English is not that good.
I'm a Pianist.. or trying to become one, anyway.
for me. I love Chopin more then Tchaikovsky.. because I love Piano I guess.
but.. I dont think that we can say ( Chopin VS Tchikovsky ) you shoud say.. hmm (Chopin VS Mozart) or something,
however.. I hope to be a good member.
see you later..
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July 08, 2006, 01:47:15 PM »
Welcome B.Piano!!
Your English is quite good.
However, I wonder about a Chopin-Mozart comparison. Would Chopin stand a chance?
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Quote from: barnowl on July 08, 2006, 01:47:15 PM
Welcome B.Piano!!
Your English is quite good.
However, I wonder about a Chopin-Mozart comparison. Would Chopin stand a chance?
definitely.
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Quote from: tompilk on July 08, 2006, 05:03:59 PM
definitely.
Nah, Chopin would come in third.
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Quote from: barnowl on July 08, 2006, 01:47:15 PM
Welcome B.Piano!!
Your English is quite good.
However, I wonder about a Chopin-Mozart comparison. Would Chopin stand a chance?
I think that is actually a quite good comparison....
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Quote from: lisztisforkids on July 08, 2006, 06:08:22 PM
I think that is actually a quite good comparison....
Well please make the case.
I won't argue, but I'll certainly read what you say.
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I think mozart´s is very dinamic in his piano compositions but his sonatas really bore me although they are more difficult then what they sound, i love his piano concert bye the way. Chopin on the other hand uses more variety in notes and he plays them to get in and out of chords, it tends to float, unlike mozart who tends to stay in certain chords, ideas , or melodies in a piece. Thats why I like chopin more when I listen to his music.
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Quote from: phil13 on July 06, 2006, 05:01:47 AM
The Concerti of Chopin are some of my favs, but let's face it...
Chopin's piano concerti focus too much on the piano to get that effective tension between the soloist and the ensemble. The orchestral writing is banal, even if it does compliment the piano, it still doesn't stand on its own. That's why he's been critiqued so much for it.
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I was referring to Tchai, but you're right too.
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Quote from: moi_not_toi on July 09, 2006, 09:37:40 PM
I was referring to Tchai, but you're right too.
I believe sergei r was referring to Tchaikovsky's solo piano works. His 3 piano concerti are great.
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