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klavierkonzerte
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czerny, starting over.
« on: September 22, 2006, 09:22:05 AM »

i want to start over working on my technique, i want to study the etudes of czerny for i have never studied any

so i was wondering which are the most progressive, i don't want to start from zero.

actually i have played some chopin etudes like op.25 in f  and c# minor and op.10 in c minor and working on op.25 no 12 but i want to work on basic scales and arpegios and so because i didn't study them seriously.

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Re: czerny, starting over.
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2006, 09:56:32 AM »

i played a selection of about 20 pieces from the op. 740 etudes, wich really helped me, although it requires a good teacher to show you the different aspects of these etudes, both technically and musically(!)
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Re: czerny, starting over.
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2006, 01:32:47 PM »

"Although I am not a supporter of Czerny, here is a progressive list (from easy to difficult):

1. The little pianist - op. 823 - elementary.

2. Five finger studies - 0p. 777 - elementary (the hands don't move)

3. Practical method for beginners - op. 599 - 100 exercises grouped according to the technical skill they are supposed to develop.

4. 30 new studies in technique - op. 849 - prepares for op. 299 below.

5. School of velocity - op. 299 - one of the most famous of Czerny's collections it might be a good starting point for you.

6. Preliminary school of finger dexterity, op. 636 - prepares for op. 740 below.

7. The art of finger dexterity - op. 740 - advanced exercises (and one of the most famous sets), but not as advanced as Moskowski or Chopin.

8. Studies for the left hand - op. 718. This is actually for two hands, but the right hand just plays the accompaniment.

Now forget about this rubbish, and play some Scarlatti instead.

Best wishes,
Bernhard."

And for scales:

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8110.msg81884.html#msg81884
(list of links from Bernhard)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7328.msg74359.html#msg74359
(Setting goals: a list of links by Bernhard)

That should suffice.

Take care
gonzalo.

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Re: czerny, starting over.
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2006, 05:34:39 PM »

thanks guys for your replies

actually i don't think that czerny studies are rubbish, they are very attractive

listen to theses ones for example

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9UdE_fwnGa8&mode=related&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=epq4rDZUMw4&mode=related&search=

could anyone please send me the op.299 , 740 & 139 studies?

or know where can i download them?

thanks.
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Re: czerny, starting over.
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2006, 06:10:12 PM »

could anyone please send me the op.299
Here's op. 299: Czerny Op. 299

You can only download two pieces a day for free, but that should work unless you're a really quick learner.  Grin
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