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Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« on: November 10, 2006, 07:39:31 AM »

   Chopin: Ballade no 1, Ballade no 2, Ballade no 3, Scherzo no 3, Scherzo no 2, Berceuse, Polonaise Heroique  , Beethoven: Waldstein movement 1, movement 3; Appasionata movement 1, movement 3. Huh Huh Huh
I'm searching for next repertoire. I' m quite sure that the Berceuse is significantly easier than the rest, but i don't know the distance of difficulties between that one and the others( for example: ballade 2 or scherzo) if i learn both of them at the same time...
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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2006, 09:03:28 AM »

I put all this into the dvorph calculator and it gave me the relative answer 2,101 in relation to alphabetical order.
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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2006, 11:15:46 AM »

If you apply Einstein's Theory of Relativity, then apply it onto the Riemann Zeta Function, and put the output along with Euler's Identity, apply Baye's Theorem, they are all the same difficulty.
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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2006, 03:08:44 PM »

If you apply Einstein's Theory of Relativity, then apply it onto the Riemann Zeta Function, and put the output along with Euler's Identity, apply Baye's Theorem, they are all the same difficulty.

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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2006, 02:34:01 PM »

Seriously everything is Hard until you make it easy!  Agreed mechanically the berceuse is easier than the other chopin pieces but the rest are all a very solid level (LRSM +) if that means anything to you Ballade 3 is a toughie interpretationally dont be lulled by the seeming accessibility of the notes. so many college students find this one elusive to their cost! The Ballade 2and scherzo 3 and pol heroic are technical warhorses..requiring a lot of agility and stamina. Ballade 1 and Scherzo 2 are pscycologically hard to handle above everything else because they are so often done there is inbuilt resistance on the part of teachers and hearers when they approach a performance of it. Waldstein is just DIfficult in terms of notes obviously but also musically - ive heard so many BAD virtuoso performances of this piece. There is so much more to this piece and believe me its hard to find (I put it on a back shelf).  Dont enter into any of these lightly, these are not the kind of pieces you can cram learn and get away with it.
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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 12:12:58 AM »

Beethoven: Appasionata 3<=Appasionata 1<=Waldstein 1
Chopin: Polonaise Heroique<ballade 1=Scherzo 2<=ballade 2<Scherzo 3<ballade 3

It's hard to compare the sheets of different composers since the emotions are totally different.

   Chopin: Ballade no 1, Ballade no 2, Ballade no 3, Scherzo no 3, Scherzo no 2, Berceuse, Polonaise Heroique  , Beethoven: Waldstein movement 1, movement 3; Appasionata movement 1, movement 3. Huh Huh Huh
I'm searching for next repertoire. I' m quite sure that the Berceuse is significantly easier than the rest, but i don't know the distance of difficulties between that one and the others( for example: ballade 2 or scherzo) if i learn both of them at the same time...
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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 02:04:48 AM »

Beethoven: Appasionata 3<=Appasionata 1<=Waldstein 1
Chopin: Polonaise Heroique<ballade 1=Scherzo 2<=ballade 2<Scherzo 3<ballade 3

It's hard to compare the sheets of different composers since the emotions are totally different.


I agree with this (assuming left to right is hardest to easiest), and I'd put Waldstein 3 in between Appassionata 1 and Appassionata 3.  But every pianist is different.  It really depends on how well your technical abilities line up with the demands of each piece.
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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2008, 06:25:51 PM »

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If you apply Einstein's Theory of Relativity, then apply it onto the Riemann Zeta Function, and put the output along with Euler's Identity, apply Baye's Theorem, they are all the same difficulty.

I think you left out the surface integration and convolution with a Mandelbrot set.
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Re: Can you grade difficulties of these pieces from easiest to hardest?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2008, 07:33:47 PM »

   Chopin: Ballade no 1, Ballade no 2, Ballade no 3, Scherzo no 3, Scherzo no 2, Berceuse, Polonaise Heroique  , Beethoven: Waldstein movement 1, movement 3; Appasionata movement 1, movement 3. Huh Huh Huh
I'm searching for next repertoire. I' m quite sure that the Berceuse is significantly easier than the rest, but i don't know the distance of difficulties between that one and the others( for example: ballade 2 or scherzo) if i learn both of them at the same time...

Berceuse, Waldstein 3, Appassionata 1, Waldstein 1, Appassionata 3, Polonaise Heroique, Scherzo 2, Scherzo 3, Ballade 3, Ballade 1, Ballade 2

But have you looked into Chopin's Scherzo No. 4 or Barcarolle?
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