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Beethoven op. 111, Arietta
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Here is the second movement of Beethoven's sonata op. 111. I'm looking forward to your comments
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Sonata 32, opus 111
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Re: Beethoven op. 111, Arietta
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It's the 1st movement
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Re: Beethoven op. 111, Arietta
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Quote from: counterpoint on December 03, 2006, 07:43:03 PM
It's the 1st movement
I apologize, it's fixed now.
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Yes, now that's the movement, I expected
What came me to mind, when hearing this Arietta:
puh, so much reverb (from the room). That's totally disturbing for me. But that's a problem of the recording, not of your playing (except that you used this much pedal - I don't hope so)
In my opinion it was too fast right from the beginning and the crescendi were too dramatic on the first page - the tempo marking says Adagio,
molto semplice
. The Boogie-part was played very nice
Then the pp part too fast again and the rests were not audible, hopefully only because of the room acoustics.
Oh I forgot, generally I would shape the left hand more, not only accompanying but nearly as important as the soprano voice.
Nice trills!
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Quote from: counterpoint on December 03, 2006, 09:46:19 PM
Yes, now that's the movement, I expected
What came me to mind, when hearing this Arietta:
puh, so much reverb (from the room). That's totally disturbing for me. But that's a problem of the recording, not of your playing (except that you used this much pedal - I don't hope so)
In my opinion it was too fast right from the beginning and the crescendi were too dramatic on the first page - the tempo marking says Adagio,
molto semplice
. The Boogie-part was played very nice
Then the pp part too fast again and the rests were not audible, hopefully only because of the room acoustics.
Oh I forgot, generally I would shape the left hand more, not only accompanying but nearly as important as the soprano voice.
Nice trills!
Yes you're right about the reverb. It's the room. I was alone in a hall for 500 people with anyway difficult acoustics.
I as well noticed the weakness of the left hand, when I listened again to it after 2 years now. The bass notes should come out more often. Strange, when i listened to it yesterday I thought the tempo was rather at the slow side, but ok, there are different interpretations. I like the thirty-second triplets a little veloce, leggiero, not too worming.
Thank you for taking time to listen and comment!
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Quote from: pianowolfi on December 03, 2006, 10:43:40 PM
Strange, when i listened to it yesterday I thought the tempo was rather at the slow side, but ok, there are different interpretations. I like the thirty-second triplets a little veloce, leggiero, not too worming.
You know, I like extreme slow tempi, often it can't be slow enough for me
For me, the Arietta (what a strange name for such a piece!) has an aura of catacombs,
a creepy, anxious atmosphere, no real life, and then this sudden wild dance of the skeletons... whoooooo... shudder...
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Quote from: counterpoint on December 03, 2006, 11:35:37 PM
You know, I like extreme slow tempi, often it can't be slow enough for me
For me, the Arietta (what a strange name for such a piece!) has an aura of catacombs,
a creepy, anxious atmosphere, no real life, and then this sudden wild dance of the skeletons... whoooooo... shudder...
Yeah haha
that is one of the aspects. I think it's all about death somehow. The whole sonata. The heaven's aspect comes in too in the arietta, for me. The transition between life and another dimension. I like the name Arietta. Perhaps Beethoven wanted to say something special with giving that name to it?
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Very nice played. You should know I'm a fan of fast tempi...
And the reverb isn't that horrible: your playing is a strong counterbalance
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October 11, 2007, 01:39:04 PM »
very heartfelt playing. it makes one feel the weight of whatever is 'weighty.' the tempo sounds 'ariettaish.' i like how you express so much in the simplicity of beethoven's chordal scheme here. great contrasts!
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Thank you both for listening and commenting
Yeah it's been a while since I played that last time. I will refresh someday. Since I am in a process of redefining myself as an interpreter I am trying to grab everything new.
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