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Author Topic: Beethoven op. 111, Arietta  (Read 880 times)
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« on: December 03, 2006, 07:36:44 PM »

Here is the second movement of Beethoven's sonata op. 111. I'm looking forward to your comments Smiley

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* Beethoven_op.111_2ndmvt_Pw.mp3 (16607.54 KB - downloaded 118 times.)
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2006, 07:43:03 PM »

It's the 1st movement  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2006, 08:08:47 PM »

It's the 1st movement  Huh

I apologize, it's fixed now. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2006, 09:46:19 PM »

Yes, now that's the movement, I expected  Cheesy

What came me to mind, when hearing this Arietta:

puh, so much reverb (from the room). That's totally disturbing for me. But that's a problem of the recording, not of your playing (except that you used this much pedal - I don't hope so)

In my opinion it was too fast right from the beginning and the crescendi were too dramatic on the first page - the tempo marking says Adagio, molto semplice  . The Boogie-part was played very nice  Cheesy
Then the pp part too fast again and the rests were not audible, hopefully only because of the room acoustics.

Oh I forgot, generally I would shape the left hand more, not only accompanying but nearly as important as the soprano voice.

Nice trills!
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2006, 10:43:40 PM »

Yes, now that's the movement, I expected  Cheesy

What came me to mind, when hearing this Arietta:

puh, so much reverb (from the room). That's totally disturbing for me. But that's a problem of the recording, not of your playing (except that you used this much pedal - I don't hope so)

In my opinion it was too fast right from the beginning and the crescendi were too dramatic on the first page - the tempo marking says Adagio, molto semplice  . The Boogie-part was played very nice  Cheesy
Then the pp part too fast again and the rests were not audible, hopefully only because of the room acoustics.

Oh I forgot, generally I would shape the left hand more, not only accompanying but nearly as important as the soprano voice.

Nice trills!


Yes you're right about the reverb. It's the room. I was alone in a hall for 500 people with anyway difficult acoustics.
 I as well noticed the weakness of the left hand, when I listened again to it after 2 years now. The bass notes should come out more often. Strange, when i listened to it yesterday I thought the tempo was rather at the slow side, but ok, there are different interpretations. I like the thirty-second triplets a little veloce, leggiero, not too worming.

Thank you for taking time to listen and comment!
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2006, 11:35:37 PM »

Strange, when i listened to it yesterday I thought the tempo was rather at the slow side, but ok, there are different interpretations. I like the thirty-second triplets a little veloce, leggiero, not too worming.

You know, I like extreme slow tempi, often it can't be slow enough for me  Cheesy

For me, the Arietta (what a strange name for such a piece!) has an aura of catacombs,
a creepy, anxious  atmosphere, no real life, and then this sudden wild  dance of the skeletons...     whoooooo... shudder...
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2006, 11:52:27 PM »

You know, I like extreme slow tempi, often it can't be slow enough for me  Cheesy

For me, the Arietta (what a strange name for such a piece!) has an aura of catacombs,
a creepy, anxious  atmosphere, no real life, and then this sudden wild  dance of the skeletons...     whoooooo... shudder...


Yeah haha Grin that is one of the aspects. I think it's all about death somehow. The whole sonata. The heaven's aspect comes in too in the arietta, for me. The transition between life and another dimension. I like the name Arietta. Perhaps Beethoven wanted to say something special with giving that name to it?
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 10:03:29 AM »

Very nice played. You should know I'm a fan of fast tempi...

And the reverb isn't that horrible: your playing is a strong counterbalance  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 01:39:04 PM »

very heartfelt playing.  it makes one feel the weight of whatever is 'weighty.'  the tempo sounds 'ariettaish.'  i like how you express so much in the simplicity of beethoven's chordal scheme here.  great contrasts!
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 03:50:11 PM »

Thank you both for listening and commenting Smiley Yeah it's been a while since I played that last time. I will refresh someday. Since I am in a process of redefining myself as an interpreter I am trying to grab everything new.
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