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« on: January 10, 2007, 04:23:03 PM »

My first chamber music experience. I did this with a friend as a Christmas present for our families. It was great fun! Any comments welcome, especially since we're both not sure how to best work on an interpretation together. Should we discuss a rough plan beforehand, or should both have their own plan and adapt "on the fly". We just played a number of times and then recorded. Probably not the way to go....
Any suggestions for some more modern piece (19th/early 20th century, preferably not too hard)?

...oh, there's an upload limit... so the other movements follow in separate postings :-)

* Mozart_K301_Mv1.mp3 (13199.03 KB - downloaded 52 times.)
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piano sheet music of Sonata for Piano and Violin

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2007, 04:31:09 PM »

K301, Mv.2...

* Mozart_K301_Mv2.mp3 (7601.1 KB - downloaded 24 times.)
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2007, 04:35:01 PM »

K304, Mv.1...

* Mozart_K304_Mv1.mp3 (10473.12 KB - downloaded 26 times.)
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 04:39:08 PM »

K.304, Mv.2...
ok, that's it... Let's hope that at least somebody's interested enough to listen...
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* Mozart_K304_Mv2.mp3 (8603.68 KB - downloaded 15 times.)
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2007, 03:48:48 AM »

wow. that sounds great!  if i was your family - i'd surely appreciate this gift and treasure it.

something i just realized is that with mozart there's a fine line between imitating exactly - RIGHT AFTER someone else does a phrase.  wait a second - then repeat.  if you are always exactly on time (advice to self , too) it seems too planned.  you know what i mean?

very enjoyable listening anyways!  i like it. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2007, 10:10:43 AM »

Thanks for your comments, pianistimo. I know what you mean. But it's really a fine line between too little and too much agogic liberty. We'll definitely try to work on the "dialogue" feeling in the next piece, which should be something 19th-century-like... Anyway, thanks for listening and for the advice... :-)
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2007, 12:45:22 AM »

Thanks a lot for sharing this. It´s extremely beautifull. It´s very well done for just a few rehearsals. You guys captured the spirit of mozart´s music so well. I can listen to all that joyfull thing going on. I can feel the energy of it. You guys also dialog very well, I never feel you are strugling with each other, but working along each other´s lines. Bringing more color to it, without competing. It´s almost like being transported back in time to the old vienesse court.  Your family might be very proud of your achievement. Please post more of your stuff. It´s pretty neat. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2007, 11:02:01 AM »

piano121, thanks for your kind words! It's one of the nicest compliments I have received so far. I'm happy that you could hear our enthusiam for the music, and I hope we can keep this spirit while trying to improve a bit on the technical side of playing together... :-)
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2007, 11:15:58 PM »

if only one day i could dabble like you, dabbler... it's hopeless... Grin

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2007, 04:13:39 PM »

can I ask you something? about the technical difidulty on playing it. How dificult do you think it is? (maibe using mozart piano sonatas as a reference for comparison) . thanks in advance!
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2007, 05:04:28 PM »

berrt, thanks for listening. And I hope very much that the audition room is a source of learning and inspiration and not one of frustration! Keep playing and enjoying the music!!

can I ask you something? about the technical difidulty on playing it. How dificult do you think it is? (maibe using mozart piano sonatas as a reference for comparison) . thanks in advance!

piano121, I can only comment on the technical difficulty of the piano part. If it's also about the violin, I'd have to ask my friend (but I know that she practiced less than I did... :-)). I have played the C (K. 545), A (331), G (283) and a (310) solo sonatas so far -- this order reflects increasing difficulty in my impression. I would put both 301 and 304 close to 331, with 304 (e) a bit easier than 301 (G).

I hope this will encourage you to give it a try! Good luck, and in case I might be able to give some specific tips let me know. Btw, there are ~15 Mozart piano+violin sonatas, some others might be even easier. Also, have a look at the Schubert p+v sonatinas (in fact Schubert called them sonatas) which are wonderful pieces and even easier than 301 and 304.

Update: I just read in another thread that you're playing Chopin FI. So you can definitely go for these two here!

-Tobias
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2007, 09:02:18 PM »

Nice. Tanx! I have played mozart´s k454, 497, 331, and 311. in order of dificulty, imo. I hope I can get my hands in a sonata for p+v, in the future, I don´t know many violinists, at all, but maibe my teacher might conect me with one. Who knows. I can only say this sonatas are extremely beautifull, and it would be such a great pleasure to work on them. Please, if you have time, take a look at my recording of k311, first movement. It´s now around 4th page of this forum.

http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,20024.0.html
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