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Author Topic: Three questions about Suggestion Diabolique and Allegro Barbaro (Bartok)  (Read 227 times)
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« on: May 21, 2007, 04:40:57 AM »

1.- Which one do you like more. Why?

2.- In you opinion Which one is harder

3- Name pieces in the same mood and same length (around 3 minutes)

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 06:07:23 AM »

Though I think both pieces are fantastic and very fun to play, I give a slight edge to Suggestion Diablolique, mainly cause there's so much character in it. I feel like I'm about to enter hell every time I see a good performance of it!

Both are standard, moderately difficult pieces (great choices for 20th century selection in audition or recitals). Each have their own tricks, so I think the difficult is dependent on the pianist . Hence, on a broader sense, I think both are similar in difficulty, but I had a harder time with the Barbaro when I was learning it at first.

Toccata Op. 1 by Jonathan LaMontaine (My ancient college audition piece!)
Dansa from Bachianas Brasileiras No. 4 by Villa-Lobos
Many other pieces by Bartok are similar in character like his Rondo from Piano Suite and a few of his Etudes.

 

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 01:09:06 PM »

Good showpiece, the Diabolique.  I am not a fan of the allegro barbaro. 
2.  The Suggestion is harder to play well, but I won't say anything about covering the notes.
3. Prokofiev toccata, Op. 11 (4)
Ginastera Sonata #1 Finale (2.5)
And, I'll recommend the Immortal Scriabin Op. 42 No. 5 (~3)
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 09:17:19 PM »

Suggestion diabolique is significantly harder unless you plan to break a speed record on Bartok by 30 seconds.  Wink

I like both pieces.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2007, 05:48:32 AM »

I like Suggestion Diabolique better.

Neither is difficult.

Bartok "Out of Doors" mvt 1 "with pipes and drums"--short, not too hard, rugged character.
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 07:33:57 AM »

Allegro barbaro is good fun to play. But I'm not all that accurate. Just like playing it for my own enjoyment.
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