Duel with phil13: Rach prelude op.23,7

[pianowolfi]

People imo it sucks. But duel is duel and deadline is deadline.

Best 

Wolfi

[phil13]

Agreed, Wolfi- a duel is a duel. 

Phil

[pianowolfi]

I have listend but i won't comment, for I am a participant. Seems as we are in a duel on post count as well lol

[elevateme_returns]

i will listen to the two if you want and give my opinion . also... opus10no2 i hope you have stuck to our deal and are learning op. 10 no 2 for august 1st!!!!!!!

[phil13]

I have listend but i won't comment, for I am a participant. Seems as we are in a duel on post count as well lol

So it seems. 

I have listened as well, and will wait to comment on it w/ you in private, after the duel.

Phil

[elevateme_returns]

i have listened to the two... and its very very close



but if i had to go with one, it would be phil. sorry piano wolfi! this is just personal taste.

however i like pianowolfi's ending more.

but its a bloody hard piece to learn quickly so hats off to both

[rallestar]

I think you've both done very well, I'd never be able to learn that piece so quickly, if I could learn it at all.

Maybe it's just me, but I felt both recordings could've been more dramatic, even though I liked many of the things PianoWolfi did with regards to dynamics. At 1:31 in his rec, phil13 seems to get close to the sound that I think the piece should have, the bass ringing as huge bells with as much agitation as possible in the right hand.

To sum up, I'd like to hear both the recordings with a more powerful and dramatic interpretation, although I suppose that could be said to be a matter of interpretation. I don't feel quite qualified to pick a winner, but congratulations to both of you for doing a good job, especially with the time frame in mind

[franz_]

I agree completaly with Rallestar.
It's very close, and you both didn't perfect the piece yet. When I really have to vote my vote goes to Phil.

But congratulations to both, I really appreciate that finally people reàly compete with each other.

[elevateme_returns]

this is such an amazing piece!! i think you should both polish it.  there are orgasmic chords a plenty.

seriously take my hat off to both of you for finishing in time. i think this might be the first one thats actually been carried out??

[phil13]

I do believe you are right about this being the first one.

Wolfi, didn't you have another duel that was to be carried out today too?

Phil

[pianowolfi]

I do believe you are right about this being the first one.

Wolfi, didn't you have another duel that was to be carried out today too?

Phil

Yeah it's Mozart Fantasy c-minor with imbetter, but he asked me if we could do it tomorrow and today I was anyway very busy and nervous because I did a live performance of my composition "Styx" for the local Chopin Society meeting.

So far thank you all for your comments

It's interesting and it's fun actually

And phil, what piano do you play on? I think your bass is much better than mine.

[elevateme_returns]

fancy recording your compo and posting it here? i for one would be interested. youve both inspired me to learn the rach prelude, amazing

[el nino]

phil. although its very close. you both are on good way.

[pianowolfi]

fancy recording your compo and posting it here? i for one would be interested. youve both inspired me to learn the rach prelude, amazing

thanks yeah I will keep it up: As for "Styx", you can find the original improvisation here

http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,23332.msg259468.html#msg259468

but I play it a bit differently now, the last section for instance I play much faster. I'll post a rec soon, the one of today has too much reverb, because the performance took place in a church

[Mozartian]

It's very close, indeed.

I feel that Wolfi's is cleaner, but I have to go with Phil's. I love his range of dynamics and personally feel much more of an emotional response from his rec than Wolfi's.

BEAUTIFUL playing though- both of you!!! You guys are going to own me in the mazurka duel. 

[JP]

pianowolfi , the rec quality is really playing against you..

[pianowolfi]

pianowolfi , the rec quality is really playing against you..

Well. most of my recs here are recorded with minidisc. Any more specific comments, recommendations?

[emill]

I feel you played as good as Phil, but your recording lacked presence.

[phil13]

So...does this mean I win? 

How exactly do we judge this? And for how long?

Phil

[pianowolfi]

So...does this mean I win? 

How exactly do we judge this? And for how long?

Phil

I added a poll above. go and vote, people!

[phil13]

*bump*

Phil

[arensky]

Good work, both of you! You are both stretched at moments and there are clinkers but you both played this well. Wolfi is cleaner, phil13 is more tempermental and forceful in the appropriate places, such as the ending. Kudos to both of you. 

It's a draw, imo.

[goldentone]

Very good, both of you.   

This is a hard one to decide.  Pianowolifi wins technically; there is more contrast with Phil and he draws us in emotionally.

These duels are fun.

[JP]

Well. most of my recs here are recorded with minidisc. Any more specific comments, recommendations?

Broader spectrum mics..

BTW from what I can tell, you're piano sounds pretty cool.

[jlh]

I listened to both of them. 

I agree with most people that it is very close.  You both have command of the piece and are expressive.  Phil's rec is clearer (rec quality -- it sounds a bit muddy in places tho), while wolfi's is a bit cleaner.  I think Phil's is freer and has a bit more character.  I would call this a draw, but if I had to choose one winner, I would go with Phil.  Great job both!

Josh 

[iumonito]

Good job both of you.  Inspiring.

[verywellmister]

Can I join in this Rach 23/7 duel? even though my rendition lacks the brilliance your's does.

Anyway, congrats to you both for learning this annoyingly difficult piece and playing it well.

I love the sonorities you guys bring out in this piece. 

Phil's was wilder, which is good, but wolfi was definitely cleaner.  I'd say its a tie.

[pianowolfi]

Can I join in this Rach 23/7 duel?

Welcome From my side, go for it! Thanks for posting in

[verywellmister]

Welcome From my side, go for it! Thanks for posting in

yay

now I just need to know how to put up a recording (stupid question I know).

any help please?

i have an old recording of myself playing the Rach on a CD that uses Windows Media Player.  How do I upload that?

[pianowolfi]

Download cdex

http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/?q=download

extract an mp3 file and post it using "additional options" "attach"