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qelery
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« on: August 06, 2007, 03:10:35 AM »

My piano teacher asked me to try to compose my first song. Every time I get a melody, I end up hatting and starting over.  Huh Do you have any tips? Would it be best to start with left hand, right hand, or both?
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 03:13:55 AM »

Start with a three-note composition; take your time and make sure it is really what you want -- remember, you only have three notes to say what you want to say.  If you can, record it and attach it to your post, and then come back here.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 03:18:44 AM »

Stunning teaching methods there Mayla  Grin

I'd do 9 instead  Kiss
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2007, 03:20:45 AM »

Only three, qelery.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2007, 03:23:04 AM »

Do you mean I only have 3 notes, or I can only use three notes throught the entire song?
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2007, 03:27:31 AM »

You can use any

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notes on the piano, but only those three notes will comprise your entire, first composition.  This may not be the one for your teacher, but it's the one you will start with for now.  Now, get composing  Wink.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 07:24:21 AM »

You have to know the notes. as soon as i did that, i started to comepose my first piece
and dont care about right or left hand, when you are writing down the music then right or left. Anyway just sit down in and improvise some melody from your brain or take a walk and do the same. If you have it in your head, try to play it on the piano.


PS. Your first piece doesent have to be superb.( very good).. My first piece wasent good neither but the more you compose the more you get the hang of it, and now when im about to compose my 20th piece it goes like flowing water. ask your teacher to give you some note paper or buy some. If you have questions,just ask your teacher. Good Luck! Wink
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2008, 05:27:20 PM »

Start with chords 8 bars should do, and make it sound like it finishes at the end. Then fill in a melody over it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 05:58:39 PM »

Start with chords 8 bars should do, and make it sound like it finishes at the end. Then fill in a melody over it.

Yeah, that's what I did with my 2 songs so far. Cadences are so good for this finishing feeling. Arpeggios and scale fragments make nice melodies, too, when you're out of ideas.  Tongue I couldn't quite decide on a vocal melody though.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 01:22:57 AM »

I couldn't quite decide on a vocal melody though.
I think melody is the hardest thing to deal with. A great melody can make you a millionaire.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2008, 10:15:51 PM »

I think Lostinidlewonder is right. Simple melody has a wonderful power within the human psyche, yet its generation seems curiously unrelated to knowledge and learning, even sometimes conscious thought. An untutored tyro can pick out a simple tune which might move people all around the world for decades. I have always found the melodic phrases I create which move me most will literally pop up out of nowhere when I least anticipate them. The more I deliberately try to form them the less often they appear. I rather like this fact, that there exist facets of music which are independent of scholarship and effort. It makes life much more interesting.   
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