Who does this guy think he is? (Including Horowitz diss)

[steinwaymodeld]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlQ4jL84COc

This guy dissed Horowitz for the HR2 ending. Saying 'EVERYONE BUT ME FAKED THE ENDING'
he thinks he is the true messiah of the piano world.
What do you think about this? And WHERE exactly did Horowitz faked in the ending of the piece?
(If Horowitz had to faked it, he wouldn't make the mid-passage 20 times harder. O also, he said Horowitz was a senior citizen when he performed this, as a matter of fact, Horowitz was 49.)


and what with this LEVEL 10 stupdity?
Does Horowitz need a scale for his playing too?

God this pisses me off.

[steinwaymodeld]

what

this following vid made me so mad, i can see straight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF5Jx7GgoTE


He dissed Juilliard (probably because he was rejceted), and then said he is doing what 'schubert and chopin were doing hundreds of years ago.'




and these, are his compositions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSBgoC8-L2g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ws-83CUF2M


yea, i can totally see the multilayer voicing playgout and how the theme develops fugue-like in these pieces of crap.

[ronde_des_sylphes]

What an idiot. a) the passage is not that hard if your octave tech is remotely decent, just alternate octaves b) the idea that Horowitz, Cziffra etc fake the passage by playing the octaves together ... hmm.. wonder how Cziffra did the Bumblebee  I suppose everyone fakes the ending of the Mephisto Waltz too?

[xyz2006tor]

Do I hear unwarranted claims?

"that the conductors at Carnegie Hall fake it"

"the highest level of technique is in the end of the HR2"

Two separate channels of autopilot? I don't know... I think playing the octaves syncopated is harder than playing them together...

"Beethoven wouldn't let any of the on the stage."

and my favorites (I can't decide which I like better"...

"that Chinese pianist cheats just as the Chinese athletes at the Olympics"

"hillbilly education...I mean, higher education"
Ho.

Ho.

Ho.

It's incapable, not uncapable, dumbass.

Time for some Goldbergs by Gould to calm me down.

[minor9th]

May the piano lid slam down on both of his hands...repeatedly.

[mattgreenecomposer]

Well, I agree with him on the "education" aspect of his speech.  There is definately a serious problem in todays schools teaching Crumb and Cage over Bach Mozart and Brahms.  Unfortunately, there are too many holes in the way he articulates himself in that you can see he is not highly educated in music history and common performance practices.

As far as  Horowitz and Lang Lang thing go, what a joke.  I think He's just trying to get attention.

I must say the conductor references is probably the farthest  from the truth.  I know a conductor of a major orchestra here in the States and it is brutal.  The amount of repertoire they are expected to know and get through in a year is 50x what people had to know back in 1850.  Remember the full body of orchestral literature we know today took over 250 years to develop.  Not to mention all the advances in orchestration by people like Ravel, Stravinsky and Ligeti.  Balancing these timbres and textures along with tempo and volume with a 50+ person orchestra takes SERIOUS skill-regardless.   
(especially when your on a 1 week deadline to learn and rehearse a full symphonic work.)

[Kassaa]

what, the octaves are more difficult together than separated..?

[nicco]

Just....just.......wow.

How can a human being get so stupid? So ignorant?

I cant even comment on this, its just...wow.

And not the good kind of wow.

[prongated]

...he makes Lang Lang look/sound like a virtuous and intelligent musician...'nuff said

[jlh]

"the highest level of technique is in the ending of the HR2..." 

Perhaps it's the highest level of technique he has ever played, looking at the way he plays I would frankly not be surprised.

[ramseytheii]

I guess everybody needs an angle.  Too bad he has to get attention by attacking others, and his superiors at that.  I mean he doesn't even play that passage particularly well.  Who is interviewing him? Is this some kind of self-produced publicity DVD?

And why does this piece in particular attract wannabe hardcore punks with stud bracelets?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byGI1mDi3no


Walter Ramsey

[invictious]

Sigh, I guess these kind of people always exist in the world, and it's the way of life that we have to deal with them, anywhere, anytime.

Right now, there is probably dissing you now.
(looks behind back)

[desordre]

 Dear fellows:
 Interesting to notice that Mr. I-am-the-best's videos show nothing about music: his technique is just above mediocre, and his compositions make me think that he just used some computer to randomize a bunch of traditional works. By the way, his comments about the coda make me think seriously that he don't know very much about piano playing either.
 The other leatherboy at least can play, at least just as some thousand of other pianists. Here the outfit and the weird name enter: how to sell out in this crowded little world of traditional piano playing?
 Please... could someone please bring me a Tureck's recording? 

 Best wishes!

[gerry]

What was with the leather drag and the spikey wristband Where was the performance...at the Eagle? Oh, and classy interview with the phone ringing in the background!

[lostinidlewonder]

Best doesn't exist in the world of art. Stupid people do though.

[jinfiesto]

For sure... Haha. I don't think that attire really matters when you're playing. At least not in my mind. All that matters is that you touch people with music. Kastles attire doesn't bother me. His idiocy does. As for Maksim. He doesn't make idiotic claims about being the best pianist ever. And at least he's actually decent.

[term]

And why does this piece in particular attract wannabe hardcore punks with stud bracelets?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byGI1mDi3no

I've heard worse performances.
To be honest, i found that pretty good.

[prongated]

btw btw...virgin records...ain't too shabby?

http://www.amazon.com/Royce-Concerto-Richard-Kastle/dp/B000003SG7
http://belovedrecordings.com/artists.html

From the latter site:

The follow-up to Richard Kastle's debut album, "Streetwise" (Virgin).  Richard Kastle's vast appeal stems from his non-traditional approach to classical music; from his short cropped and bright colored hair and punk attire to his honest and personable appearance on stage.  His rebellious attitude and appearance has helped him lift the serious stereotype barrier for younger audiences.

...

[minor9th]

Give me a tuxedo, musical depth, and true technical chops any day...barriers be damned!

[gerry]

btw btw...virgin records...ain't too shabby?

http://www.amazon.com/Royce-Concerto-Richard-Kastle/dp/B000003SG7
http://belovedrecordings.com/artists.html

From the latter site:

The follow-up to Richard Kastle's debut album, "Streetwise" (Virgin).  Richard Kastle's vast appeal stems from his non-traditional approach to classical music; from his short cropped and bright colored hair and punk attire to his honest and personable appearance on stage.  His rebellious attitude and appearance has helped him lift the serious stereotype barrier for younger audiences.

...

Hopefully he'll outgrow it.

[Kassaa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSBgoC8-L2g#4Qod2vav7fE

LOOOL, new comment: his 8th piano concerto is better than either one of Liszt...?

[zheer]

   We forget how extraordinary the great composers of the past were, it is impossible to reach the same hights as Chopin and Liszt did. The composers of today are composers of film music .

[gerry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSBgoC8-L2g#4Qod2vav7fE

LOOOL, new comment: his 8th piano concerto is better than either one of Liszt...?

Wow - now I know how to lose that xtra 30 lbs. I can go anorexic and listen to that before mealtime or go bolemic and listen to it after--won't even have to use my finger.  In addition, if it's true that laughter is the best medicine, I can save a bundle on medications. 

[thalberg]

PVAR!!!!

That's my new abbreviation for, "projectile vomiting across the room."

This guy is a first class idiot.  Truly shows the downside of youtube.

[desordre]

 (...)
The composers of today are composers of film music .

Dear Zheer:
 Excuse me. I have to disagree with you, although I have to admit that it's unlikely that a pianist-composer of our days would in the future be considered in a high level such as Liszt, for instance.
 Best!
 

[soliloquy]

I noticed that a few members have gone on there to flame his crap.


We need more members to do that.  I don't know who this "John11inch" guy is, but he seems to have the right idea

[soliloquy]

I called Alice Tully Hall and they said that he never performed there.  Then I posted that and it got deleted!!

[soliloquy]

i posted it again and they deleted it again!!  They also deleted my post where i asked what hall he performed the Chopin Polonaises and the beethoven in


I think all of us should go on there and post that we called the Alice Tully Hall and they had no history of him.


EDIT: posted a screenshot of my comment- check back there in 30 minutes; it will be gone.  Right click and open in a new window to view a high-res version of it.  Where you can actually read what it says XP

[ronde_des_sylphes]

It would be nice if he had actually hit all the right notes in the "highest level of technique" octaves at the end of HR2..

[soliloquy]

It would be nice if he had actually hit all the right notes in the "highest level of technique" octaves at the end of HR2..

Yeah I posted something to that effect calling them a bastard hybrid of 7ths, octaves and 9ths but nobody responded to that lol

[ronde_des_sylphes]

Yeah I posted something to that effect calling them a bastard hybrid of 7ths, octaves and 9ths but nobody responded to that lol

I'm hardly surprised, considering that the people (if they are in fact different entities) that you are arguing with appear to think that a rather mundane octave passage represents the pinnacle of classical piano technique.

[dnephi]

I'm hardly surprised, considering that the people (if they are in fact different entities) that you are arguing with appear to think that a rather mundane octave passage represents the pinnacle of classical piano technique.

They further believe that the greatest and most well-known piece of music is the HR2.

[prongated]

Hopefully he'll outgrow it.

...since that record was released a decade ago, I guess he hasn't...

Initially I wasn't able to comprehend how the same company that produced such fine cd's as Queffelec's complete piano works by Dutilleux would want to release such recordings by Kastle...now that I've checked the release dates...

i posted it again and they deleted it again!! They also deleted my post where i asked what hall he performed the Chopin Polonaises and the beethoven in

He deleted "neocomposer's" findings on virtuosity and his subsequent application to this Kastle dude.

I noticed that a few members have gone on there to flame his crap.


We need more members to do that. I don't know who this "John11inch" guy is, but he seems to have the right idea

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mikecaffey

Check the comment of "John11inch" on that page...this guy gave him the heads up...hahaha no wonder posts kept getting deleted ><

It would be nice if he had actually hit all the right notes in the "highest level of technique" octaves at the end of HR2..

...calling on etudes, marik etc. to record that HR2 passage will probably be a waste of time for them - not to mention degrading to them. So I propose some of the rest of us record that passage and post it up on YouTube as a video response. I should like to see what'd happen next...

They further believe that the greatest and most well-known piece of music is the HR2.

...it probably is...rates up there with Fur Elise, Liebestraume...

[jlh]

Kastle's faking time: 00:16 

[Nightscape]

I don't understand.  If he is the only pianist not to fake the ending, then why are there mistakes in this recording?  I guess when I played this piece back in high school I was the only pianist who didn't fake it either.

[ramseytheii]

I don't understand.  If he is the only pianist not to fake the ending, then why are there mistakes in this recording?  I guess when I played this piece back in high school I was the only pianist who didn't fake it either.

Walter Ramsey