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pizno
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« on: August 21, 2007, 05:27:35 AM »

What is your favorite recording of the Chopin F minor Ballade?  I have Andrewevski, Horowitz, Perriah, and Zimmerman.  Zimmerman is my favorite of these.

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2007, 05:44:40 AM »

zimmerman is good enough for me. but i also don't get the part after that big trail of chords and the the pp chords...maybe that's called the coda. it just sounds like too much going on.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 07:08:58 AM »

I simply love this piece. To be honest, this piece is so personal that I can't find a definitive recording of how I want to hear it...
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 09:48:10 AM »

I personally like Horowitz's recording of it.

Zimmerman is pretty good too.

Great ballade, will learn it next year.

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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2007, 09:48:16 AM »

Definitely Bolet.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2007, 03:20:46 PM »

Definitely Bolet.

By far
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2007, 05:37:24 PM »

I like Zimmerman. But I've never found a recording that leaves me totally satisfied
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2007, 05:47:57 PM »

perahia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2007, 06:20:46 PM »

I like Rubinstein for all 4 ballades. Come to think of it, the scherzi, too (maybe not the first), and the nocturnes, and mazurkas, and...
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 10:08:44 AM »

zimmerman is good enough for me. but i also don't get the part after that big trail of chords and the the pp chords...maybe that's called the coda. it just sounds like too much going on.

That is indeed the coda and known as one of the most difficult coda's in the piano repetoire.  I have been chipping away at it for many months.  The first part of it is difficult, for me, to make musical.  The next part, the ascending thirds is hard (if one were to play it up to tempo. which I doubt I will ever be able to do ) but not impossible.  The next parts are challenging but not impossible. 

The opening to this piece is very difficult to play well, and in fact the entire thing is full of challenges, both  musically and technically - and is, or should be, a life time project. 

Thanks for the recording advice - I'd like to hear Bolet and Rubenstein.

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 02:07:39 PM »

richter or zimerman
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 05:23:26 PM »

I love Cortot's very much. It's very free, but sometimes maybe to free. Zimmermans for me is a little to well thought out...it looses some freedom, but it has some absolutly stunning moments! Which is why I like it so much, like the small fugue section! The way he brings the inner voice out more 1st time, 2nd time he hides a bit more, and the 3rd time the melody on top sings and the inner voice is there but barley noticible! Genius how he does that!

Was it Moiseowitch (yes I spelt it wrong!) who added 3rds to one of the runs? Or Friedman? I totally forget, but it's one of them. That is truely genius! So orgasmic!
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2007, 07:08:31 PM »

ZIMMERMAN RULES IN THIS...
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2007, 01:39:38 PM »


It was Moiseiwitsch who played the descending scale in thirds - and a wonderfully Romantic little tweak it is too.

I've attached two mp3's of Moiseiwitsch playing this section - One from the Philips Great Pianists series and another live rec. from the 1950's.

Enjoy

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