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alpacinator1
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« on: October 20, 2007, 09:39:50 PM »

I'm just curious, which song out of these do you think is harder to play?


Beethoven's Sonata 01 Op.2, No.1

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Bach's Italian Concerto 1st movement?

I'm not ready to play either (They're both too hard as of now), but I want to learn one of them as a long term goal. I like them both, so I just want to know which one would be more realistic to attempt.

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2007, 09:58:48 PM »

just make both of them long term goals; each is realistic for any pianist and they are both great pieces Cool

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2007, 10:00:33 PM »

should that be "each is" or "each are"?
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2007, 10:51:45 PM »

should that be "each is" or "each are"?

It should be "each is" I think.



even if somebody says "song"

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To me Italian concerto is harder. As so often it depends on the individual player.

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2007, 12:09:56 AM »

Well, the whole of the f minor sonata is a lot to learn in comparison with the relatively short first movement of the Italian Concerto. In any case, the Beethoven sonata has a challenging last movement if your technique isn't fairly polished - the Bach, save one or two awkward spots, isn't too difficult technically. Also, the Bach involves A LOT of repetition.

Evdiently, the entire opening 'tutti' repeats, note-for-note, to close the movement, and several of the sequences are repeated immediately but varied using ornamentation. As such, it is probably easier to memorize, and there is considerably less music to learn.

The benefit is that both pieces are wonderful and acceptable concert-level repertoire. Good luck if and when you decide to tackle one of these...or maybe both!

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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2007, 02:53:08 AM »

each are,
each one is
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2007, 06:32:27 AM »

just make both of them long term goals; each is realistic for any pianist and they are both great pieces Cool



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though, Al Pacino is a great actor.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2007, 06:47:50 AM »


though, Al Pacino is a great actor.

 In my opinnion, he is the best Hollywood actor Cool.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2007, 06:54:58 AM »

That picture is totally unnecessary
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  It something to do with his username.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2007, 06:58:42 AM »

For the record, neither of these pieces are songs.
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2007, 09:14:30 AM »

For the record, neither of these pieces are songs.

Not if Glenn Gould is playing it!

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I came here just for the Al Pacino thing

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2007, 03:47:11 PM »

To clarify, I forgot to point out that I mean only the fourth movement of the Beethoven sonata.

Between those two, it seems that it is more difficult than the Bach song. I also watched the notes and music of both on Music-Scores.com, and it seems that the Bach would be more realistic to attempt, as it isn't as fast and is in an easier key. Still, I'll have to work a lot before I'm ready to play it.

Do you have any ideas for "steeping-stone" pieces? I just learned Bach's "Prelude in C major" and found it very easy. What are some good pieces that are more challenging than that song, but less so than the Italian Concerto?


EDIT:

What do you think abour Scarlatti's Sonata in C: L104?
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