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« on: October 22, 2007, 04:48:19 PM »

I would rank this movement as one of my favorites of all the Beethoven sonata movements and would love to learn it.  Just how difficult is it?  I am now finishing up the Elegie Op. 2#3 by Rachmaninoff, I have learned the Pathetique 1st movement in the past, working on Schumann's Papillons and Chopin's C# minor waltz.  I'm a working adult, mainly pracitice on weekends.  Do you think the Tempest 3rd is too much of an undertaking?  Thanks for your input.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 07:12:57 PM »

It's tough imo but it's not much harder than Pathetique 1st mvt. or all of Papilons. The hardest thing is the perpetual motion aspect, you don't get a break from the 16th note motion. But if you really like it go ahead!  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 08:49:56 PM »

It's tough imo but it's not much harder than Pathetique 1st mvt. or all of Papilons. The hardest thing is the perpetual motion aspect, you don't get a break from the 16th note motion. But if you really like it go ahead!  Smiley
yeh go challenge yourself! It'll be worth it in the end - just be prepared to be slightly disappointed if you don't learn it quickly - remember you're only playing weekends  Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2007, 08:57:42 AM »

I have scanned through it briefly (30 minutes), and I find it a step above Pathetique, so it shouldn't be too hard.

Though, if it's only weekends you practice, it might be more difficult, as this movement obviously takes some time.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2007, 04:40:44 PM »

.  Do you think the Tempest 3rd is too much of an undertaking?  Thanks for your input.

  Naaahhhhhhh, it can be done, why not start with the 1st MVT.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2007, 05:00:33 PM »

I've been working on it for a while now, getting most of the way through it. It's really frustrating at times, but then you get these huge jumps and that section becomes super easy. My teacher also demands perfection, so it takes time to get it up to the level. Just lots of slow, meticulous practice, and its manageable.
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2007, 10:19:44 AM »

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  The tempest by Sylvia capova,3rd Mvt, to play like this is very difficult.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2007, 05:55:59 PM »

I'm currently learning this at the moment (along with the first and second momements). So far, I have found that it is a little easier than it initally looks on paper, but the difficulty is making a convincing interpretation of it - a little like a Mozart sonata I suppose.

Personally, I was not keen on the interpretation in the above post - was a little rushed for my taste. I don't think it is really a piece which needs speeding up too much once learnt. So, I do believe it is manageable - I'm only have time to work on it at weekends also (along with far too much other stuff), so good luck.
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2007, 07:15:49 PM »


Personally, I was not keen on the interpretation in the above post - was a little rushed for my taste. I don't think it is really a piece which needs speeding up too much once learnt.

 Her Tempo is perfect, any faster and its too fast ,though slightly slower is Ok, reading Beethovens music can be difficult, often we are not playing what is written, here silvia Capova almost plays exactly what Beethoven actually wrote. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2007, 07:54:11 PM »

Her Tempo is perfect, any faster and its too fast ,though slightly slower is Ok, reading Beethovens music can be difficult, often we are not playing what is written, here silvia Capova almost plays exactly what Beethoven actually wrote. Smiley

Definitely agree that the tempo should not be any faster, but for semiquavers at "Allegretto", it does seem a little quick - nevertheless a performance to aspire to!
I also agree that often we are not playing what is written - I would point out that each four note right hand phrase (which appears in most of the movement) does in fact finish with a staccato note  Grin
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