Scriabin's Opus 8/12

[lohshuhan]

can anyone who has played this tell me how they approached the left hand part? 

i'm referring specifically to notes like the 4th note (A#) of the 2nd bar, and the 4th note of the 4th bar (B), where Scriabin writes those notes in the range of where your right hand would be playing. 

do you take those notes in the right hand, or do you attempt to leap the left hand over? 

i was taking it in the right hand, until a friend of mine commented that if you cheat on etude, then its not an etude anymore. 

[franz_]

can anyone who has played this tell me how they approached the left hand part? 

i'm referring specifically to notes like the 4th note (A#) of the 2nd bar, and the 4th note of the 4th bar (B), where Scriabin writes those notes in the range of where your right hand would be playing. 

do you take those notes in the right hand, or do you attempt to leap the left hand over? 

i was taking it in the right hand, until a friend of mine commented that if you cheat on etude, then its not an etude anymore. 

That's stupid what your friend says. As you can read in my other topic, i played this etude, and I took those notes right. You will see it almost everywhere. I even think Scriabin took these notes right.

[Alde]

I use my right hand although it would be quite "gymnastic" to make that leap with the left.  It would however be very difficult to stay consistently accurate.  Using your left hand would also slow you down.

[oreno]

take it with the right no one will notice  (it is not like the openning of beethven op 111-)
i played scriabins op 8-12 and its sound well

oren

[term]

That's stupid what your friend says

I don't think so. An etude is an etude, it's meant to be difficult and it should be done the way it's written.
Of course there's no real obligation to do it, if you're just playing it for the music and not for the challenge do as you like.

[quantum]

The purpose of a score is to be descriptive not prescriptive.  In other words the score outlines the compositional elements in a manner that can be clearly understood and interpreted by the performer.  It is supposed to describe the music so you can interpret it, not tell you how to play. 

In this case those upper notes in the lower staff are part of the line in the LH pattern.  It is also very consistent that those notes in the lower staff usually have an identical note held in the RH.  So playing them in the left would also mean stepping over a note you are playing in the right. 

I play them with the RH.

[lohshuhan]

I don't think so. An etude is an etude, it's meant to be difficult and it should be done the way it's written.
Of course there's no real obligation to do it, if you're just playing it for the music and not for the challenge do as you like.

hmmm...  not to say that you are wrong... because i'm still debating on whether to listen to my friend's advice...  but...  just wondering...  wouldn't that only apply if we know what that etude is trying to improve? 

like... you can always play the opening left hand run of Chopin's Revolutionary Etude on the right, but since it was basically an etude meant to train the left hand, then doing that would defeat the purpose of the etude... 

however, was scriabin trying to train left hand leaps with the complex left hand, right hand octaves, or 4 against 3 timings?