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cygnusdei
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« on: February 27, 2008, 01:18:43 AM »

Does doppio movimento mean actual metronomic tempo change?
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2008, 01:41:53 AM »

Twice as fast.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2008, 05:01:20 AM »

Does doppio movimento mean actual metronomic tempo change?

It doesn't refer to a metronome tempo.  Like Sharon said, it simply means twice as fast.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 08:13:55 PM »

In Bach Partita no. 1 for solo violin BWV 1002, each movement is followed by a 'double'. Take a look at the Corrente (page 3). The double is twice as rapid due to the sixteenth notes (vs. eighth notes), but the value of a quaver (the 'metronomic' tempo) doesn't change.

Is this 'doppio movimento' ?


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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 12:57:58 AM »

A "double" was part of an old baroque variation form where each successive variation was double the movement (simple explanation).  The pulse remains the same but the percieved speed doubles.

As for the Partita as the example, he doesn't prescribe anything other than the title double which would already be understood by the contemporaries of his time to mean same pulse but twice the notes.  As for our time, doppio movimento means that the pulse actually chances to twice as fast.

Example:
Half note pulse.... doppio movimento: quarter note pulse.

Partita:
quarter note pulse... double: still quarter note pulse but more notes.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 05:28:52 AM »

So ... say that a passage is to be repeated 'doppio movimento'. If the first time around it takes 2 minutes to execute, the second time should be 1 minute, right? Please say yes - otherwise I'm lost.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 07:12:51 AM »

So ... say that a passage is to be repeated 'doppio movimento'. If the first time around it takes 2 minutes to execute, the second time should be 1 minute, right? Please say yes - otherwise I'm lost.

Why would a passage be repeated doppio movimento?

But the answer to your question would be a theoretical "yes."
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2008, 07:23:28 AM »

Thank you  Grin
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