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« on: April 24, 2008, 06:59:36 AM »

Some of us are older or younger but in the larger picture it's not too much difference.

For me, it's probably Ginastera's Piano Sonata #2.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 07:09:12 AM »

Ha, you took my idea!

Being only 19 years old, it would appear that there is not much to choose from. However, there is a LOT to choose from, especially when you listen to as much music as I do. I'll keep my selections limited only to piano solo works for now. The three Carl Vine sonatas (all written in my lifetime) surely rank up there for me. The book 2 Ligeti etudes are also up there. Esa-Pekka Salonen's Dichotomie is another. I'll post more if I think of more.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 07:35:26 AM »

Ha, you took my idea!

Being only 19 years old, it would appear that there is not much to choose from. However, there is a LOT to choose from, especially when you listen to as much music as I do. I'll keep my selections limited only to piano solo works for now. The three Carl Vine sonatas (all written in my lifetime) surely rank up there for me. The book 2 Ligeti etudes are also up there. Esa-Pekka Salonen's Dichotomie is another. I'll post more if I think of more.

Not Carter's Retrouvailles?


I'll go with Dillon's Books of Elements, Dusapin's Etudes and Finnissy's History of Photography in Sound.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 08:18:03 AM »

Carter's Retrouvailles is alright, but I wouldn't put it up with the others. Carter's Caténaires would be an awesome choice though. That is one of his best recent pieces (composed only 2-3 years ago I think). I would also add the Dusapin etudes.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 05:55:06 PM »

Dusapin's Etudes and Finnissy's History of Photography in Sound.

Both of these are strong contenders for me (I haven't heard the entire History of Photography), but I would have to choose Rzewski's "The Road" over them, which I'm heard enough of to become a total devotee. It's hard to decide what constitutes a work when you include pieces as large as that or the Finnissy work, which are both multiple hours in length and split into several sections.

Outside of piano music, favorite works written during my lifetime would definitely include the following chamber works:

Charles Wuorinen - String Sextet (1989)
Charles Wuorinen - Saxophone Quartet (1992)
Charles Wuorinen - Dante Trilogy (chamber versions), esp. the Mission of Virgil section which is actually for 2 pianos (1995-1996)
Leo Kraft - Cloud Studies for 12 flutes (1991)
Leo Kraft - Omaggio (1992)
Per Norgard - String Quartet no. 6 'Tintinnabulary' (1986)
Hans Kox - Through a Glass, Darkly for alto sax/piano (1989)
Edison Denisov - Concerto for Two Violas, Harpsichord and String Orchestra (1984)

It's obviously hard to choose just one, and this list will likely change, since most of these guys are continually composing new music and I've obviously not heard everything by most of them. Norgard's 7th-10th string quartets are coming out on CD this month and Wuorinen's second piano quintet (among other new things) will be out by next year. I like a lot of Carter works too, but can't put my finger on any of their dates.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2008, 07:42:00 PM »

Waterloo - Abba
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 07:45:06 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 07:49:43 PM »

This is a classical forum. Surely you can think of actual concert music pieces!
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2008, 07:56:39 PM »

This is a classical forum. Surely you can think of actual concert music pieces!

1. Where does it say this is a classical forum?
2. No.

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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2008, 08:01:02 PM »

Alonso Mudarra's Fantasia no. 10.  I'm old.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2008, 08:35:41 PM »

1. Where does it say this is a classical forum?

Alright, if it isn't a classical forum, why is there only classical music in the index for purchase?
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2008, 08:47:47 PM »

Interesting topic Smiley

There Ligeti's etudes book 2 and 3. I think that is uncontroversial. And of course Carl Vine's 1st piano sonata ( I haven't heard the others).

I have to be honest and say that I don't always know the years in wich many pieces have been written, so there may be many others.

I am 18 years old.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2008, 08:48:52 PM »

Christopher Fox's lliK.relliK, composed in '91 when I was 2.  I just ordered the sheets to this and will be learning it eventually.   Cool
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2008, 10:23:10 PM »

Alright, if it isn't a classical forum, why is there only classical music in the index for purchase?

Ask the owner not me.

Discussions about a wide variety of music takes place here, so i have no idea why you say it is a classical forum.

Its not classicalpianostreets.

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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2008, 10:32:34 PM »

The variety of music is not that wide here really, if you are talking about broad genres, like classical, rock, pop, etc. It is focused about 95% of the time on classical. It is therefore safe to say that this is a classical forum. I think you were just being facetious when you posted your favorite piece because of that fact I just stated. I am not really in the mood for debate anyways.
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2008, 10:34:24 PM »

dude, retro, chill out, thats what i like, im emo, and thats is my no 2 favorite genre, and it happens to be in my lifetime
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2008, 10:37:59 PM »

I just don't like it when people trivialize a thread like this. I expected to learn some more about more modern classical music (which I think would benefit everyone), but when people trivialize it, it goes the way of other failed threads in this forum. Down to the bottom of the list with few worthwhile responses.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2008, 10:45:14 PM »

The variety of music is not that wide here really, if you are talking about broad genres, like classical, rock, pop, etc. It is focused about 95% of the time on classical. It is therefore safe to say that this is a classical forum. I think you were just being facetious when you posted your favorite piece because of that fact I just stated. I am not really in the mood for debate anyways.

The title of this thread is "favorite piece written during your lifetime" and all people are doing is answering.

The whole site does not revolve around contemporary classical music.

Reel your neck in and chill.

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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2008, 10:53:41 PM »

The title of this thread is "favorite piece written during your lifetime" and all people are doing is answering.

The whole site does not revolve around contemporary classical music.

Reel your neck in and chill.

Thal


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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2008, 10:55:57 PM »

The whole site does not revolve around contemporary classical music.

It does revolve around classical music though. If someone said "What is your favorite piece", would there be any chance of you responding with the post you posted in this thread? I think not, for it hasn't happened in the past before. If you don't like what is in this thread, don't post in it. It is as simple as that. I don't feel that I am overreacting and I am sure people agree with me. Whatever. It doesn't really matter anyways. I have a feeling this thread won't last long anyways.
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2008, 11:00:07 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2008, 11:00:27 PM »

Britten War Requiem
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2008, 11:14:49 PM »

Christopher Fox's lliK.relliK, composed in '91 when I was 2.  I just ordered the sheets to this and will be learning it eventually.   Cool

Riiiiight.  Good luck with that one.
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2008, 12:29:41 AM »

Sorabji: Villa Tasca, and other pieces
Finnissy: English Country Tunes, Verdi Transcriptions, 4th Concerto
Murail: La mandragore, Terretoires de l'oubli
Sciarrino: Sonata no.2, 3 and 5 etc
Xenakis: Evryali and Mists
Ferneyhough: Lemma Icon Epigram (not so sure about Opus c n)
Ambrosini: Rondo di forza'
Nono: Sofferte onde serene

I have a kind of personal relationship with the first two of these pieces, since I gave the premiere of the Sorabji, the first performance of ECT not by the composer, and book IV of the Verdis was dedicated to and premiered by me. I'm not really into Carter, Ligeti or Dusapin (much as I respect and am in awe of what these composers could/can do) so won't comment on these. Perhaps I should try again with them!
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2008, 02:04:21 AM »

Riiiiight.  Good luck with that one.
Thanks.  Should be a fun exercise in hand independence.  I doubt I'll be able to match Ian Pace's pace LOL

jpowell: Do you have any live Sciarrino, Xenakis, Murail, or Nono recordings?  If yes, please add them to your site!
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2008, 04:46:56 PM »

If you don't like what is in this thread, don't post in it. It is as simple as that.

I have posted thanks and i have no problem with people simply answering the question.

It was not me that said "Surely you can think of actual concert music pieces"

Please accept that music exists outside of the classical genre, some people like it and do not mind others knowing that they do.

Thal
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2008, 06:09:30 PM »

I have posted thanks and i have no problem with people simply answering the question.

It was not me that said "Surely you can think of actual concert music pieces"

Please accept that music exists outside of the classical genre, some people like it and do not mind others knowing that they do.

While the prospect of debating the guidelines and semantics of the thread to the ends of the earth is profoundly exciting, I still think I'd rather be reading about "favorite pieces written during [the users'] lifetime."

That being noted, I find it just a bit retarded that even a thread that is as obviously geared towards contemporary classical music as this one can't get to 20 before someone directly or indirectly accuses the posters of being myopic contemporary music supporters.

So what else besides "Waterloo" do you like?
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2008, 09:11:04 PM »

Corigliano Clarinet Concerto
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2008, 02:46:01 AM »

Great Topic!

Ill have to go with a filmscore on this one.  Howard Shore's "Lord of the Rings" was very impressive.  I saw him conduct it and it was a sight to remember.  I didnt care for the 2nd two movies very much but the score alone is brilliant.

I would also include:
 Goldsmith/Horners "Aliens"
Alan Sylvestries  "The Abyss"
Vangelis "BladeRunner"(The use of Electronic music was very new in 1982 so it was revolutionary)
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2008, 04:19:10 AM »

Great Topic!

Howard Shore's "Lord of the Rings" was very impressive.  I saw him conduct it and it was a sight to remember.  I didnt care for the 2nd two movies very much but the score alone is brilliant.


Are you aware of this one?



I remember seeing it at Walmart - never heard it though.
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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2008, 04:31:51 AM »

There are so many great concert music compositions written in my (our?) lifetime, and you go with a film score? That's a bit of a bold move, unless you don't know your contemporary music too well.
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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2008, 05:47:37 AM »

There are so many great concert music compositions written in my (our?) lifetime, and you go with a film score? That's a bit of a bold move, unless you don't know your contemporary music too well.

A film score can be a decent choice for one's "favorite", considering it usually reaches multiple levels of the individual's interest at the same time. Some of my favorite pieces of music that I find myself listening to over and over again are still bits from this or that film, themes from different video games, and/or songs by bands that I love. These would certainly not outweigh a lot of contemporary concert pieces if we were talking about a "piece I expect to draw the most from" type of category.
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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2008, 06:44:05 PM »

A film score can be a decent choice for one's "favorite", considering it usually reaches multiple levels of the individual's interest at the same time.

I am not sure i understand this. How can one's personal choice be decent?

What would be an indecent choice?

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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2008, 11:45:14 PM »

I am not sure i understand this. How can one's personal choice be decent?

What would be an indecent choice?

Thal
I could and often do think of plenty of indecent choices.
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« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2008, 04:48:19 AM »

I am not sure i understand this. How can one's personal choice be decent?

What would be an indecent choice?

Thal

'Decent' is probably not the best word I could have used. I just meant to say that choosing a film score is valid, considering the criterion is simply 'favorite,' a criterion which simply comes down to taste and can involve any amount of guilty (or non-guilty) pleasure.
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« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2008, 01:13:55 PM »

Have anyone heard Marc-André Dalbavie's piano concerto? Amazing work if I may say so.
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« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2008, 04:39:36 AM »

Have anyone heard Marc-André Dalbavie's piano concerto? Amazing work if I may say so.

I have heard that piece, but I don't think I would call it one of my favorites. It is still very good. Also, I would nominate Boulez's Sur Incises. I think it is much better than many of the works he has written in the past.
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« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2008, 09:41:42 PM »