1st concerto help..

[keyb0ardfweak]

I don't have any teacher...

no one that can help me with my piano playing..
so..I just wanted to ask here for some help..

I just wanted to play a concerto..but I don't know which one to play..

preferably..I would not like to play any mozart concerto..=S

I prefer something that will be nice and not hard like rachmaninoff's 3rd concert or 2nd..xD


something that would be in level 5 or 6...

any suggestions??

thanks in advance

[pianoperformer]

Isn't really any concerto going to be hard? I thought that was really the purpose of the concerto...to kinda show off the solo instrument. I'm learning Piano Concerto No. 2 in G minor, Op. 22 by Saint-Saëns, and it is very difficult indeed.

And, I most definitely wouldn't learn one without a teacher. If you don't have the appropriate technique, nor a teacher to help you develop that technique, well it can be very harmful.

[thierry13]

No concerto without teacher, and certainly no concerto at grade 5 or 6.

[casparma]

What's really a concerto any way?? It looks to me just like another piece of grade 8 (maybe 7) sonata....

[pianoperformer]

What's really a concerto any way?? It looks to me just like another piece of grade 8 (maybe 7) sonata....

Um, no. See wikipedia for an explanation.

In short, it is a piece of usually three movements that has a certain instrument as a solo, accompanied by the orchestra. Since the Romantic period at least, these solos have been of a virtuosic nature.

Sorry, I dont' know what these grades are—apparently I wasn't subject to them when growing up, and now I'm at a university, so I can't tell you how it matches up. But at least for me, it was a great complement to be assigned a concerto to learn, since one has to have acceptional technical ability to perform one satisfactorily.

[ryanyee]

try bach's bwv1052! i learnt it myself and its easy except for the part where u try to make it sound beautiful like glenn gould or whatever.

[teresa_b]

try bach's bwv1052! i learnt it myself and its easy except for the part where u try to make it sound beautiful like glenn gould or whatever.

  That's hilarious. 

Seriously, maybe try Haydn. 

Teresa

[keyb0ardfweak]

I just got to read yesterday that the easiest concerto is one of haydn..in D major I think...dnt remember..XD

I saw the score and it had a lot of pages..


so if people here say that I need a teacher and have to be in grade 7 or 8, I think I have no choice and leave the concertos and play something else..I suposse..xD

[pianoperformer]

Yes, you definitely need a teacher. How long have you been playing the piano? I would forget the concerto idea for a while.

I again don't know about the grade. What is this whole grade thing, anyway? totally new to me. If you get a teacher, he/she will know when you are ready for a concerto.

it drives me nuts when people say they are self-taught. If you want to be anything close to an intermediate to advanced pianist, you can't teach yourself. There have been centuries of musical refinement and development before you, that you are unlikely to learn by yourself. Further, like I said before, you could really injure yourself if you're not careful, by bad tecnique and playing pieces beyond your technical level.

It's not meant to be harsh, it's just I really think you need a teacher ASAP.

[ryanyee]

IM NOT JOKING. I LEARNT IT myself last year after hearing glenn gould's 1057 recording and sight read it quite good......i guess. how can it be difficult? it's fingerings, technique and ability to make it sound nice only.

[invictious]

Haydn D Major is possibly the easiest concerto written. It's probably level 5-6 as you said.

[ryanyee]

r u trying to boast about ur achievements with that sig.?

[teresa_b]

IM NOT JOKING. I LEARNT IT myself last year after hearing glenn gould's 1057 recording and sight read it quite good......i guess. how can it be difficult? it's fingerings, technique and ability to make it sound nice only.

Sorry... your post just struck me funny.  Hmm, fingerings, technique and making it sound beautiful...could you not say that about any piece?  If Bach is easy for you, that's great.  Do post recording of your playing of it in the Audition Room.

Teresa

[keyb0ardfweak]

Finally, someone will be able to teach me piano, cuz of a friennd of my parents, so he will just call this teacher and I'll be starting my lessons by summer

This time I won't complain about what the teacher tells me to do..xD


But that wasn't the main reason why I left classes 2 years ago..I was just lazy and I only had a 4 octaved keyboard..

try bach's bwv1052! i learnt it myself and its easy except for the part where u try to make it sound beautiful like glenn gould or whatever.

how long did it take you to learn it?

[ryanyee]

Sorry... your post just struck me funny.  Hmm, fingerings, technique and making it sound beautiful...could you not say that about any piece?  If Bach is easy for you, that's great.  Do post recording of your playing of it in the Audition Room.

Teresa

i would if i could but im still practising it. just started on it again after 3 months. just started it again for a week or so. but sudden hand and arm stiffness is preventing me from executing this piece  properly. pity..

[keyb0ardfweak]

and what if I told you that I learnt by my self the 3rd movement of moonlight sonata?it sounds also hilarious...

but I just memorized it, the problem is how to play it, if I record it, you'll hear 80/100% of mistakes.

[ryanyee]

then that's almost exactly like my case except maybe the moonlight sonata's more difficult? i don't know cos my teacher said that the moonlight sonata isn't for ppl my age. bt i love that piece too. pity pity pity.......

[Kassaa]

then that's almost exactly like my case except maybe the moonlight sonata's more difficult? i don't know cos my teacher said that the moonlight sonata isn't for ppl my age. bt i love that piece too. pity pity pity.......

How old are you? 3?

[keyb0ardfweak]

ahahah, really..I think anyone with suficient technique could play anything...

in youtube I saw a kid of 9 years old playing fantaisie impromptu of chopin..so I think age doesn't matters as long as you've got the technique..XD

[ryanyee]

well that's sonething i definetely lack then. what does technique mean anyway? im 14. and with technique and fingerings no better then the common 6 yr old starting his piano lessons.

[keyb0ardfweak]

u play piano and don't know whats technique all about...=S

by the way, how did get into this??I also think that if you want to be better playing piano u should have a teacher..

[eddie54]

i second the Haydn D major concerto.....super easy in terms of concerto difficulty.....

[ryanyee]

u play piano and don't know whats technique all about...=S

by the way, how did get into this??I also think that if you want to be better playing piano u should have a teacher..

i didnt bother to learn and i of course have a teacher but he's not teaching much. all he can teach is debussy, chopin, brahms. only romantic period pieces. he cant teach me anything else.

[starpianist]

Well, I think it's a good idea you've set up lessons with a teacher because I don't know how you'd expect to practice or perform a concerto without a teacher. I don't know your level of technique, either... Well, you could start out with Haydn concertos, then move onto easier Beethoven concertos or one of the Mendelssohn concertos. Then, after you master Mendelssohn, you can move up to Liszt, Tchaikovsky, or finally that Rach 3.

But I think if you really want to enjoy the concerto, you should start out with a somewhat technically challenging piece like the Mendelssohn, but something that happens to be easier than most of the "big" concertos. Good luck, and have fun!

[pelajarpiano]

I don't have teacher too. I think just me who don't have teacher.
Can i learn any technique without teacher?

[keyb0ardfweak]

Well, you could start out with Haydn concertos

That was actually what I was thinking about...but I think I would like to play sth more advanced...However, I know that I'm not in that level, e.g, I want to play Rach 2 concerto but I know it's imposible..XD, just a dream..

anyway, thanks for the advice

I'll search for a teacher and he or she will tell me what should I do.

I don't have teacher too. I think just me who don't have teacher.
Can i learn any technique without teacher?

If you know what you are doing yes, playing scales and arpeggios all the time will lead you to nothing, it's a waste of time, like someone in this forum said.

Try playing some Chopin etudes, slowly first and with hands separated..your technique will increase gradually if you do it good


There was an old post I saw the other day but now I can't find it..=S, it was about a guide of etudes on how to play them and etcetctc even if you're a beginer.

Hope this helped you!

[pelajarpiano]

Ok, Thanks for ur advice. Now, i learn chopin etude op 25 no.9
I hope my technique will increase