Fantasie Impromptu

[8426]

i've started this piece and i find the notes and all easy to read, and i'm playing hands separate. but when i join the hands i find it very hard. you know how it's in cut time and its got sixths in the bottom, and at the top it's by sixteenths. well look at the sheet and you'll know what i'm talking about. i can's seem to coordinate it exactly. i can coordinate  the beginning, where the right hand comes in, and thats if i play it fast...please . i really need help.

[hyrst]

Focus on the first notes of the strong beats coming in together when playing together.  When playing separate, practice against the metronome with the metronome dinging on the beat and then keeping the rhythm of the opposing part (i.e. ding on one then tap remaining three or four). 

There are probably rhythm word patterns that can help when matching the beats at a slow pace.  These are only guides and help calculate the pattern, but the music won't work until you can hear the flow of bpth parts (especially the primary part) without such static phrases.  I have heard: When... is. he...com-....ing.back....

Work on the rhythms with clapping before trying to play notes.

Itr can feel like it is impossible - but then one day it will just click and you will do it with hardly a thought.

[keyb0ardfweak]

I think you should first play hand separated..

Then, when you are comfortable when playing one single hand alone, you speed it up more. e.g: instead of playing it at speed 10, try playing at 12 only with one hand. Never play with both hands until you are comfortable playing each single hand alone at a higher speed than normal.

Secondly, when you can play the first part of the piece with each single hand seperately and at a higher speed than normal, there is where you can play with both hands. If you play with both hands without first playing each hand individually, you may cause bad habits with your playing. (I know all of this cuz I read it on a book someone put here somewhere else)

Finally, I think you should need enough strenght in your finger to play this, also, play the left hand with the fingers paralel to the keys, not curved and extend the fingers how much you can. This will also expand the extension of your fingers.


I'm not a proper pianist to tell you this, but this is what I read from that book. So good luck!!practice also some exercises from clementi to gain strenght or try something else like czerny, etcetc

[gyzzzmo]

Compare wich notes of the left and right hand are supposed to be at the same time and work towards those notes. Get used to that rhythm and apply it to the rest of the piece, and gain speed

[8426]

Focus on the first notes of the strong beats coming in together when playing together.  When playing separate, practice against the metronome with the metronome dinging on the beat and then keeping the rhythm of the opposing part (i.e. ding on one then tap remaining three or four). 

There are probably rhythm word patterns that can help when matching the beats at a slow pace.  These are only guides and help calculate the pattern, but the music won't work until you can hear the flow of bpth parts (especially the primary part) without such static phrases.  I have heard: When... is. he...com-....ing.back....

Work on the rhythms with clapping before trying to play notes.

Itr can feel like it is impossible - but then one day it will just click and you will do it with hardly a thought.

so about the metronome, are you saying i should set it up to play for example, the left hand. while i play the right hand? also are there studies that can help with this?

[gyzzzmo]

Also, if you realise that the rhythm is just 4vs3 (4 notes right, 3 notes left hand), it gets alot easier. Focus on that and start very slowly.

[hyrst]

Yes, that is what I meant with the metronome.  Use the ding on the first of the beat to help focus on keeping it together.

You can create your own 'study'.  Start with the simplest elements - tapping the rhythm alone.  Then add one note and play a note, then pick a typical sequence or three or four notes that are easy to handle and play them to your rhythm - just gradually develop the complexity.

[kantsuiex]

Sorry to make grammatical mistakes if I made, I am a Chinese 
(in fact i don't know why people strongly cares about them)
I read a book titled fundamentals of piano (sth like that)
It mentions how to play the 4vs3 rhythm
Don't treat the rhythm like mathematics as some people divide them into 12 (3*4) intervals and the play the note very slowly.........
However, the book suggest that you should play separately, and then play the left hand repeatedly, and you try to play the right hand
I hope it  helps you.