Chopin - Minute Waltz - Minimum acceptable tempo ?

[drooxy]

All is in the topic !

Any suggestion ?

Cheers,
Drooxy

[anda]

metr 80/bar

[drooxy]

Thanks Anda !

It is pretty fast...

What is the best way to reach that tempo  for that piece ? (for instance, is going progressively up to speed hands separate with the help of a metronome a good method? Should one even go over that tempo before joining hands... but then that is really very quick !, etc.).

Thanks for any hint !

Cheers,
Drooxy

[zemos]

Thanks Anda !

It is pretty fast...

What is the best way to reach that tempo  for that piece ? (for instance, is going progressively up to speed hands separate with the help of a metronome a good method? Should one even go over that tempo before joining hands... but then that is really very quick !, etc.).

Thanks for any hint !

Cheers,
Drooxy

Yeah it is quite fast, but a high ambition leads to a big effort, which leads to good results!
I think the best way is first of all to learn both hands very slowly but perfectly, then start using metronome:
start a bit faster than before, do it good and increase the speed by 8. Then of-course make it perfect on that speed and so on...   I learn pieces in this method, I think it's quite good! (:
Good luck!

[anda]

Yeah it is quite fast, but a high ambition leads to a big effort, which leads to good results!
I think the best way is first of all to learn both hands very slowly but perfectly, then start using metronome:
start a bit faster than before, do it good and increase the speed by 8. Then of-course make it perfect on that speed and so on...   I learn pieces in this method, I think it's quite good! (:
Good luck!

so, if i understand correctly: learn (including memorize) either hs or ht (you know what works better for you). then start about 1/2 tempo and work progressively up? i totally agree.

best luck

[drooxy]

Thanks Anda and Zemos...

Just one last question: how do you finger the measures  10, 12 and 20 ? I am really struggling on these !

Thank you really for your answers !

Cheers,
Drooxy

[anda]

Scholtz/Pozniak fingerings(in peters edition):

bar 10: 3 2 232 1 2
bar 12: 3 232 1 4 5 2
bar 20: 2 3 2 1 2 1

best luck

[TheRach]

Thanks Anda !

It is pretty fast...

What is the best way to reach that tempo  for that piece ? (for instance, is going progressively up to speed hands separate with the help of a metronome a good method? Should one even go over that tempo before joining hands... but then that is really very quick !, etc.).

Thanks for any hint !

Cheers,
Drooxy

Hands seperately, and yes go over the speed. You should be able to play it much faster hands seperate than together.

[drooxy]

THANKS !

 

bar 10 (3 2 232 1 2) causes me big troubles at fast speed because of the repeated finger 2 on Eb... I tried many other fingerings to avoid that repetition but with no real success...

Is there really a way to repeat that quickly the Eb with the finger 2 or is there other possible fingerings ?

Thanks again !
Drooxy