"Sonate facile" KV 545 How to play the notes in time 15 (Mozart)

[Maarten]

good evening volks!
i am new here and come from germany (so sorry for my bad english;)).
first hallo alltogether!very nice forum and interesting postings here (i have seen, that here are a lot of ´profis´) ...
i unfortunately play piano only for a short time and have a big problem:
i tried everything, but don´t know, whats right:
how to play the notes in time 15 in  Mozarts ´Sonate facile´.
this trill (in german: pralltriller= tr) and the other ´special effect´ before the trill, how to play them? how look the notes in this time for this ´features´, if they are written out in normal form/shape?
how is there relationship with the notes, which are played with the left hand?
can anyone describe and explain, maybe demonstrate this?perhaps by writing out the played notes ( maybe in a sort of picture)?



thank, thx thx for all, you are my rescuer you and sorry for my bad english (on german websites nobody could help )


maarten

[beethovenfan]

Hallo Maarten,

man bin ich froh, dass ich mit meinem schlechten Englisch nicht alleine in diesem Board unterwegs bin. Willkommen!

Soll ich jetzt in Deutsch oder Englisch antworten
Shall I answer in German or Englisch?

[Maarten]

Hallo Maarten,

man bin ich froh, dass ich mit meinem schlechten Englisch nicht alleine in diesem Board unterwegs bin. Willkommen!

Soll ich jetzt in Deutsch oder Englisch antworten
Shall I answer in German or Englisch?


hey, cool !
...keine ahnung, mir wäre es lieber in deutsch , das wäre auf jeden fall fürs erklären besser - ich hoffe, die leute sind hier dann nicht sauer oder so .

grüße maarten

[beethovenfan]

I don't know if it's allowed  , but I've seen some French Topics too.
So can I explain in German or is it forbidden?

[beethovenfan]

My solution:

I'll send you a pm,
 

[olivarius]

german is not difficult to understand 

(but don't ask me to write in german)

[Pikker]

Hi!
Dann sind wir ja schon zu dritt, die Deutsch können. Komme auch aus Deutschland.

[Allegroconfuoco]

Hey, noch einer!

Allegro

[gyzzzmo]

hi,
do you mean the vingering of the trill in the 15th bar?
It depends on your technical skills.
The nicest would be a 3-4 fingering on the G trill and do the two Fis notes with resp. the 2th and 3th finger.
But 3-4 is a difficult trill because the atonomy of your arm musculs.
So its easier but less beatiful to do the G trill with your 2-3 finger and the two Fis notes with resp. the thumb and 2th finger.

i you mean the long trill  in the 25th bar, i would use 1-3-2-3- 1-3-2-3 enz.
good luck.


PS. i find it strange that people people call this sonata 'facile'. Mozart Sonatas are always difficult to play because you need a good technique to play the trills and 16th-notes smoothly!

[Maarten]

hi,
do you mean the vingering of the trill in the 15th bar?
It depends on your technical skills.
The nicest would be a 3-4 fingering on the G trill and do the two Fis notes with resp. the 2th and 3th finger.
But 3-4 is a difficult trill because the atonomy of your arm musculs.
So its easier but less beatiful to do the G trill with your 2-3 finger and the two Fis notes with resp. the thumb and 2th finger.

i you mean the long trill  in the 25th bar, i would use 1-3-2-3- 1-3-2-3 enz.
good luck.


PS. i find it strange that people people call this sonata 'facile'. Mozart Sonatas are always difficult to play because you need a good technique to play the trills and 16th-notes smoothly!

Yeah, thanks a much!
Since i use ur anatomy favored fingering   with the 2-3 finger, it works perfekt.


thx thx thx for all !!!!


greets maarten

[gyzzzmo]

Keine ursache,
Es macht mir viel spass, Sie zu helfen.

Gyzzzmo