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Author Topic: What grade is this etude?Chopin Op.25 No.2  (Read 828 times)
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« on: April 07, 2005, 11:05:33 AM »
What is the grade of this etude?
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2005, 02:50:54 PM »
There was a list somewhere.

I think like the rest it's above grades.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2005, 07:48:56 PM »
This one was once on the Canadian RCM Grade 10 list.  I think it has a rep as the easiest of the Chopin Etudes.

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2005, 04:22:04 AM »
Quote from: IanT on April 07, 2005, 07:48:56 PM
This one was once on the Canadian RCM Grade 10 list. I think it has a rep as the easiest of the Chopin Etudes.

Ian

I have no idea why people say that. I can't imagine how it's easier than Op. 10 No. 6 or 9 or Op. 25 No. 1 or 3. Sure, I guess it might be the easiest to hit all the notes, but to have the perfect tone control and coordination between the hands that this piece requires is extremely difficult.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2005, 06:24:15 AM »
According to Bernhard's lists, grade 8 (ABRSM).
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2005, 07:58:00 AM »
Huh, this etude is in grade 8??
It sounds so difficult to me  Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2005, 01:32:24 PM »
Quote from: Ennar on April 08, 2005, 07:58:00 AM
Huh, this etude is in grade 8??
It sounds so difficult to me Shocked

Don'w worry, I'm totally sure it won't have been in Grade 8, it's more around DipABRSM or  LRSM I think.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2005, 04:37:21 PM »
It seems that ABRSM and Canada's RCT agree then - ABRSM grade 8 is about the same as RCT grade 10.  I've always wondered about this myself.

There's a good Liszt story concerning this piece.  Apparently there was another hot pianist around at the same time (Dreyshock) who was renowned for his octave technique.  His party piece was playing the Revolutionary Etude with the left hand in octaves.  Apparently, Liszt at one of his recitals was challenged to outdo this feat.  He played Op25 #2 with the right hand in octaves, at tempo!  I guess that would definetly take it beyond grade 8/10!

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2005, 05:36:46 PM »
That's true. The thing he did, is taking the first bar (only), really really slowly. The repeat the first bar a little faster, then again the first bar a little faster. Then, when he got to speed, he continued and did all of the etude in octaves  Grin The next challenge is to play the sorabji piece Ludwig Van Rachabji posted in his sorabji topic(the prelude), in octave all along with both hands  Grin  Roll Eyes

Anyone wanna tryout?  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2005, 03:11:59 AM »
Quote from: IanT on April 08, 2005, 04:37:21 PM
There's a good Liszt story concerning this piece.  Apparently there was another hot pianist around at the same time (Dreyshock) who was renowned for his octave technique.  His party piece was playing the Revolutionary Etude with the left hand in octaves.  Apparently, Liszt at one of his recitals was challenged to outdo this feat.  He played Op25 #2 with the right hand in octaves, at tempo!  I guess that would definetly take it beyond grade 8/10!

Ian

That's just ridiculous.  I guess I'll have to show them up by learning the op25 no10 in unisons. Cool
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2005, 05:26:31 AM »
in the AMEB syllabus it's AmusA level. i played it for about 3 weeks and didn't find it too difficult compared to all my other Amus pieces
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