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« on: May 13, 2005, 12:47:29 AM »

I love and want to play this piece a lot. But from what it sounds and its sheet music,
it's very hard to me. Can anyone let me me what level this piece is? Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2005, 02:45:40 PM »

Bump.
No one knows? I don't think so Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2005, 02:51:13 PM »

I haven't see the sheet music either. Can anyone here share it to us? Thank you.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2005, 03:18:12 PM »

It's Op 43.6.

The very useful spreadsheet file on grades of pieces that rattles around here lists it as a Grade 8.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2005, 03:41:54 PM »

It's Op 43.6.

The very useful spreadsheet file on grades of pieces that rattles around here lists it as a Grade 8.

Thanks. Then i better stay away from the piece.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2005, 03:52:03 PM »

I'm sure you could try it. What pieces did you played before?
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2005, 04:07:45 PM »

I'm sure you could try it. What pieces did you played before?

I started from scratch 2 year ago, before that, no music trainning at all, just love
to listen classical music.

The past 2 years, i almost spent most of the time playing chopin's Nocturne in C-sharp minor op. posth and Waltz in A minor op. posth, of coz some sparse exercisings and little pieces ( But i do spend a lot of time here daily!!!). With tremendous help from this forum, i am getting the pieces at my hand. Thank you again for all your wonderful posts.

I love chopin's music. But i think listening and playing too much of his pieces make myself too sentimental. So the next piece i am going to try will be something that are happy tune and upbeat. That's why i am interested in the "To Spring". But..., apparently it's too beyond my level.

Can someone recommend short pieces(2-3 pages) that are of uplifting spirit?

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2005, 04:18:20 PM »

It's Op 43.6.

The very useful spreadsheet file on grades of pieces that rattles around here lists it as a Grade 8.

I don't relay on that list too much. Acording to it 99% of Bachs WTC is grade 7 and other stuff like that Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2005, 04:40:50 PM »

I don't relay on that list too much. Acording to it 99% of Bachs WTC is grade 7 and other stuff like that Tongue

Yup. I don't rely too much on that list either. Everything is relative. What might be easy for you might be hard for others, and vice verca. Just go for it!  Smiley If you figure out it's too hard for you, leave it for some weeks while you try something a little bit less challenging, then try it again. Grieg's lyric peaces are beautiful. I would suggest getting the book with all his lyric pieces. There are several more easy pieces there than "To Spring".

Good luck!  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2005, 06:07:38 PM »

I started from scratch 2 year ago, before that, no music trainning at all, just love
to listen classical music.

The past 2 years, i almost spent most of the time playing chopin's Nocturne in C-sharp minor op. posth and Waltz in A minor op. posth, of coz some sparse exercisings and little pieces ( But i do spend a lot of time here daily!!!). With tremendous help from this forum, i am getting the pieces at my hand. Thank you again for all your wonderful posts.

I love chopin's music. But i think listening and playing too much of his pieces make myself too sentimental. So the next piece i am going to try will be something that are happy tune and upbeat. That's why i am interested in the "To Spring". But..., apparently it's too beyond my level.

Can someone recommend short pieces(2-3 pages) that are of uplifting spirit?



I guess you could play it. Right after having played this nocturne, I began to play the pathetique sonata, and then the revolutionary study, and both are harder. So I guess you could play this one with this background. A piece that is SO exciting to play is Rach prelude no.2 in Bb major! So great!! Grin But probably too hard for you. Else than that... I don't really know. Try chopin's minute waltz, I think.
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2005, 06:15:06 PM »

I guess you could play it. Right after having played this nocturne, I began to play the pathetique sonata, and then the revolutionary study, and both are harder. So I guess you could play this one with this background. A piece that is SO exciting to play is Rach prelude no.2 in Bb major! So great!! Grin But probably too hard for you. Else than that... I don't really know. Try chopin's minute waltz, I think.

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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2005, 08:34:12 PM »

Since my reply sort of precipated a few things, late_beginner, I better add a bit.

I personally am not a big fan of "grading" per se.  On grading, the Chopin A major prelude would be down at one level, and Balakirev's Islamey would be...off the scale.  But the former is horribly hard to make sound like it should. Obviously, in purely technical terms there is a gap between the two. Just like the comment on most of the WTC in that file is graded at 7 or so.

I'm also a big fan of stretching a bit. If you want to do that Grieg, there's nothing stopping you from looking at it and getting an idea of where your skills are in relation to it. It might be one of a couple of things.  Doable. Doable with a fair amount of work. Doable with a lot of work. Out of the question. If it's in the first three categories -- well, why not? Perhaps starting with some technically simpler Grieg -- the Nocturne comes to mind.

I do not recommend this approach for Islamey  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2005, 08:34:57 PM »

Since my reply sort of precipated a few things, late_beginner, I better add a bit.

I personally am not a big fan of "grading" per se.  On grading, the Chopin A major prelude would be down at one level, and Balakirev's Islamey would be...off the scale.  But the former is horribly hard to make sound like it should. Obviously, in purely technical terms there is a gap between the two. Just like the comment on most of the WTC in that file is graded at 7 or so.

I'm also a big fan of stretching a bit. If you want to do that Grieg, there's nothing stopping you from looking at it and getting an idea of where your skills are in relation to it. It might be one of a couple of things.  Doable. Doable with a fair amount of work. Doable with a lot of work. Out of the question. If it's in the first three categories -- well, why not? Perhaps starting with some technically simpler Grieg -- the Nocturne comes to mind.

I do not recommend this approach for Islamey  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2005, 09:17:57 PM »

Since my reply sort of precipated a few things, late_beginner, I better add a bit.

I personally am not a big fan of "grading" per se.  On grading, the Chopin A major prelude would be down at one level, and Balakirev's Islamey would be...off the scale.  But the former is horribly hard to make sound like it should. Obviously, in purely technical terms there is a gap between the two. Just like the comment on most of the WTC in that file is graded at 7 or so.

I'm also a big fan of stretching a bit. If you want to do that Grieg, there's nothing stopping you from looking at it and getting an idea of where your skills are in relation to it. It might be one of a couple of things.  Doable. Doable with a fair amount of work. Doable with a lot of work. Out of the question. If it's in the first three categories -- well, why not? Perhaps starting with some technically simpler Grieg -- the Nocturne comes to mind.

I do not recommend this approach for Islamey  Grin

Thank you.
As i going through the sheet music of "To Spring", i found there are many voices involved.
And also the sheet music i got from the sheetmusicarchive.net looks like a dual piano version.
In a word, hard Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2005, 03:21:40 AM »

DIE!

Another skeptical one or are you just jealous?
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2005, 04:28:28 AM »

DIE!

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To Spring is my favorite lyric piece so I've looked at the sheetmusic a few times.  Those arpeggios in the LH towards the end aren't very nice looking.  You could try Schumann's Happy Farmer.  It's very easy so you can probably have it at a decent level in a few days.  It's also a really fun piece.  Another suggestion would be the 2nd mvt of Moonlight Sonata(the one people don't play.)  It's upbeat and won't kill you technically.  The Reaper's Song by Schumann is also a possibility.  I sightread it earlier today, and it's a nice piece.
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2005, 07:44:17 AM »

Another skeptical one or are you just jealous?

Now where is the "Stop bringing up your amazing skills in every post you make" option
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2005, 03:04:34 PM »

Now where is the "Stop bringing up your amazing skills in every post you make" option

I don't find it amazing at all, I said that it was common to make jumps of difficulty between two pieces, taking for exemple me. But I know many people here did jumps like that. My goal was just to help him, but if you take it like that, fine.

P.S. : I have my answer you're jealous.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2005, 04:46:05 PM »

I don't find it amazing at all, I said that it was common to make jumps of difficulty between two pieces, taking for exemple me. But I know many people here did jumps like that. My goal was just to help him, but if you take it like that, fine.

P.S. : I have my answer you're jealous.

I'm sorry, but I simply cannot put up with this anymore. This forum truly has gone to hell. Every other post is similar to 99% of Thierry's posts, uninformative, and a waste of forum space. Thierry, you are a lier, and I know that for a fact. And you have achieved your goal of getting an entire Internet forum to despise you - way to go!

I wish I could make a list of the people who, like Thierry, lie about how great they think they are. Buy sadly, there are too many to list. They are ruining Piano Forum for everyone. And, if they think that they are impressing anyone, I can assure them that they aren't.

Thierry, don't bother replying to this post. You will not get an answer.

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2005, 05:19:34 PM »

You lie by saying im a lier. Farewell.
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2005, 09:25:47 PM »

lier? one who lays? : O)
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2005, 11:03:55 PM »

? Sorry, but I'm not enlgish, and that's the way he wrote it. It's when someone says things that are not true.
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2005, 08:27:33 AM »

Ferme ta gueule merde.
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2005, 10:44:03 AM »

Ha det bra! Grin
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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2005, 11:18:00 AM »

哎,thierry 撒谎的本事真厉害。 害得人受不了看他可恶的鬼名字。 一看到他的名字,就知道又是个自我陶醉者在放什么样的臭狗屁。呸。
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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2005, 11:26:38 AM »

Ha det bra! Grin

Det håller jag med om.

And yes, Theirry, I'm amazingly jealous of your wicked piano and bragging skills.
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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2005, 01:15:21 PM »

Det håller jag med om.

And yes, Theirry, I'm amazingly jealous of your wicked piano and bragging skills.

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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2005, 07:26:42 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2005, 09:04:07 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2005, 02:04:23 AM »

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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2005, 02:56:08 AM »

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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2005, 02:43:47 AM »

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