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« on: May 30, 2003, 11:46:34 AM »

I've been following the Queen Elizabeth competition here in Belgium. In the semi finals all the candidates have to play a Mozart concerto. While the technical standards in the other repetoire are very high and sometimes astonishing (check out the 16 year old Wen-Yu Shen playing Petroeska for example www.vrt.be/vrt_master/kew/home) they nearly all struggle with Mozart giving wooden, charmless, nervy performances with many small technical fluffs. Is this maybe a reflection on the way young pianists are being trained today? Is there too much emphasis on technique at the expense of musicality?
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2003, 01:26:15 AM »

I think it's attributable to several factors.  First, much of Mozart's writing seems deceptively simple, but is actually complex.  As such the aim of making runs in Mozart, for example, sound like "strings of pearls" is often not as easy to achieve as one would hope.  Then too, the ornaments were written in a time of lighter action keyboards.  It is more difficult to play them smoothly on the heavier action modern pianos.  There are also the dictates of classical era "performance practices" that weigh on pianists' minds when performing.  That's why no risks are taken in competitions, and why the playing seems so mechanical and homogenized.  Yet another reason: if you have large hands, you're in trouble with Mozart before you even start.  Finally, the lines of Mozart's writing are so clean, that it leaves the pianist no place to hide--fluffs are readily apparent to the listener.  In the thicker textures of the Romantic and Neo-Romantic composers, the pianist can more easily cover up and gloss over errors.  Other than all this, playing Mozart is extremely easy!
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2003, 12:59:04 PM »

In Mozart, everything must have a certain simplicity and spontaniety in it.  Mozart once said the best performance of his music he had ever heard "made him forget he had composed it".  This was because the performer played it with such spontaniety it was like he had improvised it on the spot.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2003, 09:22:02 PM »

"The sonatas of Mozart are unique; they are too easy for children, and too difficult for adults."

Artur Schnabel
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2003, 09:31:24 PM »

What did you think about the finalists ? I'm a bit surprised that some of these guys made it to the finals, mainly because of the way some played their Mozart concerto.
As to the answer to your question, I think Mozart is very difficult because it is very subjective, and also you can't hide anything. If someone playing Mozart is in a bad day, you'll hear it immediately
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2003, 01:13:50 PM »

Well mozart is the king of Classical Music and still is King.  No one will replace Mozart's music, for me as a pianist, I'm now working on Mozart's Fantasia in D-Minor, and I tell you if you look at the notes, you will laugh at how easy it is, but when you sit down and work for 3 hours straight and try to make it better and better, and in the end when you finally have achieved perfection, you will be shocked at the beauty of Mozart.

Mozart doesn't have anything fancy or crazy in his music, it's all simple and neat, but to play it like it's supposed to be played, you must achieve "perfection".

Mozart's music is perfection, Mozart's music is probably the most highpoint in human history.  I can sure bet you there isn't some Martzart on Mars composing beatiful symphonies and concerto's like Mozart.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2003, 09:30:13 PM »

Agreed, Fantasia looks so simple, but the end product is difficult to accomplish with any kind of beauty. When one does accomplish this though it is as if the heavens opened up and a heavenly choir begins to sing.

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2003, 12:48:04 PM »

This is maybe changing the subject a little but after the finals of the QE competition there was an interesting discussion about the changing makeup of the finalists over the years.  
In particular the number of good  European and US candidates is getting smaller with each event.
The main points were - up to about 10 years ago the competition was dominated by the Russians, in general they were much better prepared tehnically and were more mature musically than the Europeans and Americans. There were also candidates from Asian countries who whilst being technically sound were musically niave and were almost always eliminated in the first round.
This has now changed, the Russians are no longer as strong, and although the competition was won by a German, 7 out of the 12 finalists were Asian and you certainly can no longer question their musicianship. Incidently there was not an American in sight.
Why is this? I think that the answer may lie in the way kids are trained and the other demands on their time. To build a really solid technique requires a lot of time, particularly during the teenage years, I have two teenage children and after allowing for school, homework, sports practice etc. they simply would not have time for more than an hour or two practice per day, I guess that the pattern is similar in the USA.
I would be particulary interested to hear from forum members from the Asian countries about how you are training your young talent as clearly you are doing something differently.
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