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Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« on: June 05, 2005, 04:09:11 AM »

What is your opinion?....

Many versions of Ravel's piano music, but I have to say that Samson  François is by far the best playing Ravel .....(Gaspard de la Nuit.....Scarbo is the finest version among all).
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2005, 04:13:43 AM »

What is your opinion?....

Many versions of Ravel's piano music, but I have to say that Samson  François is by far the best playing Ravel .....(Gaspard de la Nuit.....Scarbo is the finest version among all).

I'd agree, although Argerich is fair game too.
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2005, 07:39:19 AM »

Pascal Roge has been great listening for me but the only other good recordings i have heard are Vlado Perlemuter . To be honest they have both ben really powerful recordings but i am not sure if they are the best. You should consider though that Perlemuter studied the music with Ravel himself.

Maybe it is better to pick the best recordings for specific Ravel works rather than everything unless there is one performer who wins hands down for everything.
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2005, 01:10:06 PM »

The Canadian pianist Louis Lortie plays phenomenal Ravel.
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2005, 03:11:11 PM »

Moravec
Ravel (piano rolls)
Roge
Gieseking
Thibaudet
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2005, 04:33:30 PM »

IMO, Argerich's "Gaspard" from about 1976 on DG is perfection.
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2005, 10:06:46 PM »

I agree - Argerich's Gaspard has not yet been surpassed IMO.  However, for pure beauty of sound and excitement in all Ravel's other works,  Gieseking's recordings are sublime.
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2005, 04:22:40 AM »

I fully Agree with your comments on Argerich, Gieseking, Lortie . Roge,...., etc.  when playing Ravel, but just one thing... This morning (on www.radioclassique.fr) I Listened to a new version (for me) of Ravel’s 1st piano concerto with Zimmerman …highly superior to Argerich’s Deusche Grammophone recording (from any point of view).

This Zimmerman’ version is quite similar to that one of Samson François, recorded in August 1959. Have a look here for more details

http://www.iclassics.com/productDetail?contentId=7403 

But I strongly recommend to listent to François’s Gaspar de la Nuit…is certainly Monumental… the best of all so far.
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2005, 10:32:58 AM »

Moravec
Ravel (piano rolls)
Roge
Gieseking
Thibaudet

I heard that Ravel himslef wasn't a brilliant pianist. Apparently the piano roll of him playing his Toccata (from Tombeau de Couperin) was played much too slow - but later research suggests that that had something to do with the actually recording than Ravel's playing.

Didn't Vlado Perlemuter say Ravel had short, stubbly thumbs which made them ideal for glissandi?
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2005, 10:34:40 PM »

Perlemuter and Giesking work quite well for me.
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2005, 07:47:50 PM »

Has anyone heard Robert Casasdesus? I heard that his crystalline technique transforms Ravel into fine gems or something like that.
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2005, 08:09:57 PM »

Off-topic a bit...

RE: Ravel's small hands: Wasn't Ravel about 5'3" (160 cm) tall ?
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Re: Who Is the best playing Ravel??
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2005, 09:25:45 PM »

Gieseking and Samson François are big references for both Ravel and Debussy. 


Argerich and ABM are also excellent for Ravel.  I am surprised ABM was not yet mentionned.

How about Richter's Alborada and Valse noble et sentimentale? 

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