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Live Streamed Piano Recital with Murray McLachlan

A new piano recital series has been launched in Stockholm this fall. The first recital, with pianist Peter Jablonski took place on September 15 and today, you can hear British pianist Murray McLachlan play live from The Royal Academy of Fine Arts. Read more >>

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« on: April 15, 2013, 11:56:55 AM »

These two giant composers equalled in virtuosity partook in what would be considered the duel of the century. This happened in Vienna on a day, in which Mozart was complaining. What did both composers bring to the contest? All Mozart did was complain about a broken piano, or one that he thought was broken. Clementi enjoyed the show and made out with some ladies later on. Actually, I don't know if the latter happened, but Clementi was a good looking dude. This tune is the greatest ever of the opus 36 series and is the last one. I'm talking about the opus 36 no 6 in d. Did Mozart copy this? I don't think Mozart felt it would be worth it. Instead the guy applauded Clementi and thought his thirds and sixths were very impressive. I'm sure that all beginning piano students ran home after school to play Clementi's sonatinas when they first  came out the same way that they did for the Italian Concerto, BWV 971 by Bach. Okay, that might be going a little too far. Bach was a legend like Babe Ruth of baseball, these people cannot be matched. Mozart's Viennese Sonatina No. 6, which opens like the (Eine kleine Nachtmusik K.525 Movt.1 ) by the composer of the same name is another piece that stands out as gay (in the traditional sense) and cheerful. In contrast, Clementi's playing was more technical than Mozart.   


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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 08:10:09 PM »

These two giant composers equalled in virtuosity partook in what would be considered the duel of the century. This happened in Vienna on a day, in which Mozart was complaining. What did both composers bring to the contest? All Mozart did was complain about a broken piano, or one that he thought was broken. Clementi enjoyed the show and made out with some ladies later on. Actually, I don't know if the latter happened, but Clementi was a good looking dude. This tune is the greatest ever of the opus 36 series and is the last one. I'm talking about the opus 36 no 6 in d. Did Mozart copy this? I don't think Mozart felt it would be worth it. Instead the guy applauded Clementi and thought his thirds and sixths were very impressive. I'm sure that all beginning piano students ran home after school to play Clementi's sonatinas when they first  came out the same way that they did for the Italian Concerto, BWV 971 by Bach. Okay, that might be going a little too far. Bach was a legend like Babe Ruth of baseball, these people cannot be matched. Mozart's Viennese Sonatina No. 6, which opens like the (Eine kleine Nachtmusik K.525 Movt.1 ) by the composer of the same name is another piece that stands out as gay (in the traditional sense) and cheerful. In contrast, Clementi's playing was more technical than Mozart.  

Here we go, yet again!................What is the point (points?) you are trying to make?......The emphasis being on the word TRYING, in more than one sense!........ I am not even going to waste my time unpicking your post and explaining why it is full of complete nonsense; quite frankly, I can't be bothered! 

Surely to goodness it has to be made official now, you are actually a complete and utter cretin!!! Angry
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 09:03:55 PM »

cretin

Never heard this word before, but I really like it...I think I know quite a few cretins, but not many on this forum fortunately...
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 10:16:24 PM »

Never heard this word before, but I really like it...I think I know quite a few cretins, but not many on this forum fortunately...

In England a 'cretin' refers to someone of extremely low intelligence...a fool...an idiot etc The word has a certain ring to it!
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 04:02:42 AM »

In italian: cretino.  There's a musical ring to it.
As far as this thread goes, it's actually quite intersting.  Like a music appreciation class in school.  There's a clementi sonata that opens just like the magic flute ouverture.  This would have been a much more interesting example.
But what is it with this beethovenopus2 etc. guy?  It's like he's hiding somewhere, throws a stone then hides again.  He might be interesting to talk to if he would just interact a bit.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2013, 04:23:35 AM »

In italian: cretino.  There's a musical ring to it.

Yes, and it sounds less intimidating than imbecile... but since I just learned that cretinism is actually a medical term referring to congenital hypothyroidism, I guess it could be offensive to use the word...
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2013, 04:56:52 AM »

For anyone interested in the backstory behind the original post (and it is, whatever you may think of the original post, quite an interesting stor), please see the following:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmNPP1jpx8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmNPP1jpx8</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws-cR5lc7Co" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws-cR5lc7Co</a>
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2013, 05:19:30 AM »

Yes, and it sounds less intimidating than imbecile... but since I just learned that cretinism is actually a medical term referring to congenital hypothyroidism, I guess it could be offensive to use the word...
oh my.  I don't think i'll use THAT word anymore.
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