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Topic: Calling all Chopin Lovers  (Read 2014 times)

Offline adodd81802

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Calling all Chopin Lovers
on: August 27, 2015, 02:27:39 PM
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"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 04:18:21 PM
I've played a couple of them and they are indeed quite nice, even though much simpler compositions that Chopin's.

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 04:24:53 PM
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"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #3 on: August 27, 2015, 04:38:11 PM
yeah yeah we all know of john field's nocturne. sort of get irritated about how people seem to only mention this guy in relation to chopin, when he was a fine composer that stood on his own.

It's not just John Field, Chopin and many other composers (like Mendelssohn, Liszt) took a lot ofrom the pioneers and super stars of the brilliant style form. This includes Hummels, Moscheles, Dussek, Cramer etc

Listen to John Field's piano concerto no. 2, you'll be pleasantly surprised. It's a beautiful early 19th century concerto, which evidently influenced the creative minds of the early romantic composers.

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 05:02:46 PM
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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #5 on: August 27, 2015, 05:45:26 PM
Thanks for your comment. I had stated that he influenced chopin so didn't want to take any credit away from his pieces. I am surprised myself that I had not heard of field sooner so I will go through his songs when I get a chance.  I enjoyed what I heard so far.

Do listen to them on a period instrument (fortepiano) as well:


BTW. When I said they are simpler I didn't mean it as a bad thing :)




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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers ---> :-) MIKULI!!! :-)
Reply #6 on: August 27, 2015, 05:54:25 PM
Field is jiggy. right on. also important to look forward at those that took what he started and moved to forward, ie those he influenced (not lightly but actually had a hand in forming their talent/style) - ie those who studied with Freddy.

have said many a time before, Mikuli is way underappreciated.





it's also important to know he was a sort of pioneer of early ethnomusicology

you could say what he sort of started, Bartok later took much further and developed on it

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #7 on: August 27, 2015, 06:14:53 PM
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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #8 on: August 27, 2015, 06:20:45 PM
Thanks for all the posts i'll have a listen when I get the chance. I have found that a lot of other Romantic composers I haven't really connected with quite as well as Chopin, so I am glad to be finding more composers with similar styles, whether from Chopin or to Chopin.
Are you familiar with Balakirev's output? Often very Chopinisque...
But forget Islamey...Listen to his other pieces, such as the Scherzos, Sonatas and Nocturnes.

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #9 on: August 27, 2015, 09:47:39 PM
Scriabin is a great example of a composer that took his idolization to the next level. As in, he didn't just simply mimic the  "style of Chopin" but rather took it, elevated it, and transformed it to a higher plane of sophisticated music. Much like how Chopin drastically changed the brilliant style form.

Liadov's another good example, but I don't really use him because his output is quite limited thanks to his lazyness. But he's also a fine composer that didn't just mimic and imitate his idols, he managed to completely find his own voice in music. Another "school of Chopin" composer that I highly recommend. Not much to love since theyre mostly miniatures, but still fine music.

Almost forgot to mention Henselt. Check out his op. 2 etudes. The "If I were a bird" etude is one of his most popular works, and rightly so.

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #10 on: August 27, 2015, 11:28:38 PM
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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers ---> :-) MIKULI!!! :-)
Reply #11 on: August 28, 2015, 03:38:05 AM
ie those who studied with Freddy.


Other pupils of Chopin with very similar style:

Thomas Tellefsen


Carl Filtsch


Adolph Gutman


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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #12 on: August 28, 2015, 03:57:21 AM
Ha, interesting that chopinlover hasn't commented on the thread called "calling chopin lovers". ;D
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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers ---> :-) MIKULI!!! :-)
Reply #13 on: August 28, 2015, 04:37:03 PM
Other pupils of Chopin with very similar style:

Thomas Tellefsen


Carl Filtsch


Adolph Gutman



thanks for the assist. all pieces and composers i have suggested in the past. saved me time in hunting them all down again  :) :D 8)

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #14 on: August 28, 2015, 05:21:48 PM
Ha, interesting that chopinlover hasn't commented on the thread called "calling chopin lovers". ;D
I'm not the only chopinlover here, you know  ::)

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #15 on: August 28, 2015, 05:25:34 PM
I'm not the only chopinlover here, you know  ::)

The only chopinlover01.  :-\
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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #16 on: August 31, 2015, 01:18:49 AM
But he didn't say "calling all chopinlover01s" :P

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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #17 on: August 31, 2015, 01:43:51 AM
But he didn't say "calling all chopinlover01s" :P

Oh whatever! ;D
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Re: Calling all Chopin Lovers
Reply #18 on: August 31, 2015, 07:39:54 AM
Hummel was his major influence.
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