{"id":10233,"date":"2020-02-04T15:11:49","date_gmt":"2020-02-04T15:11:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/?p=10233"},"modified":"2020-02-07T06:57:43","modified_gmt":"2020-02-07T06:57:43","slug":"news-from-the-past-can-we-play-like-schubert-did","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/articles\/news-from-the-past-can-we-play-like-schubert-did-10233\/","title":{"rendered":"News From the Past: Can We Play Like Schubert Did?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Christina Kobb is a Norwegian pianist and researcher, specializing in Viennese fortepiano performance. Her research now focuses on practically reconstructing piano technique from the early romantic era. How did  Schubert, Chopin and the other masters manage before the free-arm-technique became the norm?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was different 100 years before when Mozart was making a world tour as a youngster. Instead of being hunched over the piano crashing one\u2019s weight down upon it, performers were required to sit ramrod straight and keep their arms and elbows at their sides. Most playing was finger-driven with supple wrists that were raised and lowered with great delicacy. Tchaikovsky\u2019s racing octaves, Rachmaninoff\u2018s gigantic block chords and Liszt\u2019s monumental tonal constructions were notably absent from pieces composed at that time.<\/p>\n<p>Christina Kobb, who is heading up a project to promote 18th-century playing, such as might have been practiced by Mozart, notes that it is easier to play running 16th notes faster. It\u2019s also simpler to play chords more accurately and smoothly. She maintains that pianists should, at the very least, familiarize themselves with the techniques to get better in touch with the thoughts and aspirations of the composers of the time.<\/p>\n<p>Piano Street met up with Christina to talk about her research.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb2-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"100%\"  class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-10239\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb2-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb2-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb2-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb2.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Piano Street: Since we last spoke about 18th century piano playing your continuous research has been dealing with the execution of basic motions in piano playing from the early 19th century. Can you tell us a little bit about your work?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Christina Kobb: In 2008, I began my PhD project on historic performance practices at the Norwegian Academy of Music in Oslo. I had already been specializing in historical keyboard instruments for several years, and was eager to understand more about piano playing in the 1820s \u2013 one of the most successful decades in the history of the piano!  In a quest to find out more about how Beethoven, Schubert, Hummel and other great pianists of the early 19th century may have played, I studied the piano treatises of this time. Penned by leading pianists like Johann Nepomuk Hummel, these pedagogical works offer insights into ideals and preferences for performance. What I did differently than most other researchers, however, is that I focussed on the instructions for basic body posture and arm\/finger motions. <\/p>\n<p><em>PS: Which were your conclusions?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>At first, it seems rigid and exaggerated to follow obsolete rules like sitting bolt upright, keeping the elbows close to the body while playing and moving the fingers only from the middle of the finger. Nevertheless, since even my very first attempts produced a much better tone in the fortepiano \u2013 and even in the modern piano. In the years since, I have reconstructed the basic piano technique described in Viennese sources of the 1820s and used myself as a lab rat by retraining my body to comply with the old instructions. Most interestingly, though, these changes have also encouraged a change in how I play the music \u2013 even how I shape each phrase. To me, this is the most fascinating discovery: How a pianist\u2019s body, hand and finger motions directly translate into sound. Does this mean that I now play exactly like Beethoven? Probably not! However, one might well argue that a piano technique reconstructed from the sources of his day will bring us much closer to the ideals of his time than what any modern piano technique will.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"100%\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10243\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb3.jpg 773w, https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb3-300x205.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb3-768x524.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 773px) 100vw, 773px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>PS: When listening to historical instruments performances, I have a feeling that we forget the professional and social context of the keyboard player. The \u201dconcert pianist\u201d &#8211; in the sense that one player is on stage playing works by other composers &#8211; isn\u2019t really invented until Franz Liszt and Clara Schumann. Also concert halls were smaller. Which were the requirements for functioning as a pianist performer in the 1820s?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>CK: I love this question and your very good point, which I find is asked way too seldom! The problem is, unfortunately, that I do not have a satisfactory answer. But to name a few things \u2013 firstly, it would have been unthinkable to play just one instrument. Professional musicians could sing, conduct and play strings and keyboard instruments. Secondly, the theoretic schooling was extremely thorough (in the German-speaking area), and the integration of aural skills a matter of fact. Just think about it, many composers never got to hear their greatest works! Yet, they knew exactly how it sounded and how to orchestrate. Their musical imagination must have been so fine-tuned and highly developed that we, \u201cmere pianists\u201d of today, would probably be regarded amateurs in their eyes. To make it as a pianist composer in the 1820s, you would have to compose pieces in your own unique style, and sell copies of the scores to your fans \u2013 who would do their best to play it at home. And to really win the hearts of your audience, you had to show great improvisation skills. It was highly valued to create something for the moment \u2013 be it in improvisation or in the rendering of a composition. But sadly, the art (or even attempt!) of touching the listener is often lost in modern music making, even on historical instruments. Personally, I find this loss far greater than missing a few slurs or playing a \u201cwrong\u201d ornament. Lack of emotional depth makes us lose interest in actual listening. It would be both historically correct and of timeless value to re-emphasize touching performances of classical music!<\/p>\n<p><em>PS: How can \u201dmodern piano playing\u201d benefit from knowledge about old style piano playing?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>CK: First of all, playing historical pianos makes us aware of diversity of sound. This is quite an experience, compared to the current \u201cstandardized\u201d sound resulting from the Steinway-dominated market. Nevertheless, we all know that a piano can sound strikingly different under two different pairs of hands. How a piano is played is at least as important as how it is built. Pianists nowadays typically play with much weight, passion and brilliance, \u2013 qualities encouraged by big concert halls, large sonorous grand pianos and modern repertoire. Nevertheless, the core repertoire of most pianists (and most concert programmes) still tends to be classical and romantic piano works. The intimate feeling often required in these pieces thrives on a lighter touch, elegance of phrasing, exploration of sound colours and softer dynamics. My reconstruction of the old Viennese piano technique offers all of this, and can, to a great extent, be used in modern piano playing as well. Knowing how piano playing once looked like, and what kinds of sound and phrasing it fostered, will enrich interpretation. Performing solo piano works is demanding, and we need all the tools we can get! I do hope that my research can make people aware, once again, of what we have nearly lost, and use it to create more beautiful, more interesting performances. I should also mention that one important bonus of the upright posture required in 19th-century technique is disappearing pain. Unfortunately, many pianists struggle with arm and back pains, and I was no exception. However, a decade of improving my posture seems to have solved the problem completely! Good posture simply allows for more practice without ruining your body.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"100%\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10241\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb1.jpg 980w, https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb1-300x191.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.pianostreet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/kobb1-768x490.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 980px) 100vw, 980px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>PS: You have investigated historical piano playing and the development of the piano as an instrument is a consequence of how it was needed to be played. In your opinion, what was gained and lost in our musical conception during the trip from the fortepiano to the modern concert grand?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>CK: The question of changes in musical conception is probably the most important question, and the instrument change may only be one indication of the overall change in aesthetics.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m afraid we have lost improvisation, and with it, the touch of creation while performing. We have gained standardisation in keyboard building as well as in playing, but sadly, lost delicacy and nuance, as well as clarity of tone and phrase. We might have gained exactness in the metronomic sense, but I\u2019m afraid we have lost rhythmic definition and the \u2018speaking qualities\u2019 for which renowned masters of the fortepiano once were known. Intimacy was lost with the big concert halls \u2013 volume was gained in the attempt of filling them.<\/p>\n<p>For me, so enthralled by 19th-century music and pianos, I must admit that I feel we have lost more than we have gained. But even so: During all of this, we have really established the piano as a solo instrument as well as the instrument for music lovers all over the world. This is something that Mozart and Beethoven could only have dreamed of! For us pianists, it is a major gain that so much of the music we play is commonly known. And if we really want to, we can bring back the elements that have been lost and bring about a new era of beauty in piano playing. I do think it is possible, even on the modern piano \u2013 which I attempt to demonstrate in this video: <\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"100%\" height=\"243\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/N1-PUB_e3vE\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><em><br \/>\nPS: Thanks for the conversation and good luck with your continuous work!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>CK: You are welcome!<\/p>\n<p>Read more on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicandpractice.org\/volume-4\/viennese-piano-technique-of-the-1820s-and-implications-for-todays-pianists\/\">musicandpractice.org<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Christina Kobb is a Norwegian pianist and researcher, specializing in Viennese fortepiano performance. Her research now focuses on practically reconstructing piano technique from the early romantic era. 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