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Title: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on June 13, 2004, 05:23:12 AM
I'm am really curious as to the different "NICE" pianos out there and which have been tested out.  Personally, the best piano i have played on so far was a Kawai EX  9 ft Concert Grande, its cost was 130,000.00.  WITHOUT THE BENCH lol.  The bench cost $2,000.00.  I also played on a hand crafted Wulitzner that was estimated at $90,000.00.  I had never played on a piano as nice before in my life!.  let me know what you have played on or what you have.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Saturn on June 13, 2004, 11:13:45 AM
This is one of the nicest pianos I've played on, but also one of the most "interesting":

https://www.boesendorfer.com/products/designed_models/images/hollein/hollein_500x400.jpg

It's a special designed model Bosendorfer.  Notice there's no stand holding the cover up.  That's what made it interesting.  There's a little switch on the left side of the piano that you use to raise or lower the lid to exactly the height you want.  How cool is that?

See the red and gold on the lid?  The gold is inlaid gold leaf.

- Saturn
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: benji on June 14, 2004, 02:10:24 AM
I played on a Bösendorfer Imperial Grand in a hotel lobby in Atlanta. It was nothing short of amazing. :)
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Post by: Spatula on June 14, 2004, 02:22:24 AM
There is this "Yamaha 2000" something piano which is hooked up to a Pentium 3 computer and has a monitor over the keys, looks pretty futuristic.

https://www.concertpitchpiano.com/VM_YamPro2000.html
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Steinwayman on June 18, 2004, 10:28:25 PM
Probably the all around best piano I ever played was Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli's personal Hamburg Steinway D--perfectly voiced, perfectly balanced action, glorious tone.  Several years ago I played a beautiful NY Steinway D from the late 1940's that had been in a private home in the American Midwest all that time--also a beautiful instrument with great character and responsiveness. Supposedly it was originally selected for the owner by Arthur Rubinstein, a family friend.

Have played wonderful Bosendorfers here and there and would happily own one of them, at least one of the larger models. My own Hamburg Steinway C is a fabulous piano, second to none anywhere and has about as big a sound as my house can hold.

Was very disappointed by Horowitz' NY Steinway D when I played it a few years back. I think it had been reworked by the NY Steinway techs to make it a little less  aggressive and "Horowitzian". Nothing special, and certainly no competition for my own piano. But then I'm no Horowitz.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: bizgirl on June 21, 2004, 10:38:50 PM
That Yamaha Spatula mentioned is pretty cool.  Think about it - you could visit PF while you practice!

For some reason I think having a computer at our piano would cause us all to have less productive practice sessions. :)
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Babcock on June 22, 2004, 07:17:55 AM
   I've played some glorious Bosendorfers; an Imperial at the Busoni competition stands out in my memory.  I'm partial to the sound of New York Steinways, though.  I owned a wonderful B from 1897 with its original board that was so warm and rich.  Now I have a D and it's so smooth and colourful.  
    I once visited a friend in a city where I was giving a recital who had a Hamburg M.  It was the best piano of its size that I have ever encountered.
    I think that there are many fine instruments.  Some may appeal to you more than others --- just like people.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Tash on June 22, 2004, 02:56:15 PM
the nicest piano i have played was a Steinway grand (i have no idea what type it was unfortunately) at the Sydney Conservatorium, and all i can say about it is YUM it was so nice, i got to practice during the lunch break and was like can this just never end, or can i steal this piano and take it home with me? mmm very nice, could make anything sound good.

question: i've never encountered a bosendorfer or even heard of one until i came to this forum- maybe they don't have them here in australia i don't know. but that pic of the one saturn put up looks hell nice!wow i've never seen such an incredible looking piano!i want one! anyway, many of you praise them so much, so can i ask, for those who have played on a steinway and a bosendorfer, what's the difference? i'm very curious
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on June 22, 2004, 06:54:31 PM
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the nicest piano i have played was a Steinway grand (i have no idea what type it was unfortunately) at the Sydney Conservatorium, and all i can say about it is YUM it was so nice, i got to practice during the lunch break and was like can this just never end, or can i steal this piano and take it home with me? mmm very nice, could make anything sound good.

question: i've never encountered a bosendorfer or even heard of one until i came to this forum- maybe they don't have them here in australia i don't know. but that pic of the one saturn put up looks hell nice!wow i've never seen such an incredible looking piano!i want one! anyway, many of you praise them so much, so can i ask, for those who have played on a steinway and a bosendorfer, what's the difference? i'm very curious


I've never played on one, but my ex-piano teacher played on one and loved it as well.  They have some that have 8 extra keys on the bass side, which makes them quite tasteful.  have you ever played on a wurlitzner?  If not you should.  They are very nice pianos.  The one i played on had a very rich lovely sound.  
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on June 22, 2004, 06:57:18 PM
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Probably the all around best piano I ever played was Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli's personal Hamburg Steinway D--perfectly voiced, perfectly balanced action, glorious tone.  Several years ago I played a beautiful NY Steinway D from the late 1940's that had been in a private home in the American Midwest all that time--also a beautiful instrument with great character and responsiveness. Supposedly it was originally selected for the owner by Arthur Rubinstein, a family friend.

Have played wonderful Bosendorfers here and there and would happily own one of them, at least one of the larger models. My own Hamburg Steinway C is a fabulous piano, second to none anywhere and has about as big a sound as my house can hold.

Was very disappointed by Horowitz' NY Steinway D when I played it a few years back. I think it had been reworked by the NY Steinway techs to make it a little less  aggressive and "Horowitzian". Nothing special, and certainly no competition for my own piano. But then I'm no Horowitz.


Have you ever played on a Wurlitzner???  and if so, go in depth.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: xvimbi on June 22, 2004, 07:34:12 PM
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Have you ever played on a Wurlitzner???  and if so, go in depth.
I finally got to ask: I have never heard of "Wurlitzner". There is a company called "Wurlitzer", but they are mostly known for their electric organs. Their pianos are not considered to be particularly good, but correct me if I'm wrong - they might have made some better ones a few decades ago.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: xvimbi on June 22, 2004, 07:38:49 PM
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question: i've never encountered a bosendorfer or even heard of one until i came to this forum- maybe they don't have them here in australia i don't know. but that pic of the one saturn put up looks hell nice!wow i've never seen such an incredible looking piano!i want one! anyway, many of you praise them so much, so can i ask, for those who have played on a steinway and a bosendorfer, what's the difference? i'm very curious

Please don't ask! You'll start a flame war that has been fought many times.
But if you ask me, Bösendorfer is better on all levels  ;D ;D ;D

(Don't you just like such statements?)
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on June 22, 2004, 07:52:54 PM
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I finally got to ask: I have never heard of "Wurlitzner". There is a company called "Wurlitzer", but they are mostly known for their electric organs. Their pianos are not considered to be particularly good, but correct me if I'm wrong - they might have made some better ones a few decades ago.


lol actually i believe you are right.  I'm not very familar with the "wurlitzer" (thanks for the correction)  but i do know that the piano i played on was brand new.  and it was wonderful.  maybe they have made poor pianos, but the new ones (or the ones i've played on) were exceptional.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: xvimbi on June 22, 2004, 07:59:07 PM
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lol actually i believe you are right.  I'm not very familar with the "wurlitzer" (thanks for the correction)  but i do know that the piano i played on was brand new.  and it was wonderful.  maybe they have made poor pianos, but the new ones (or the ones i've played on) were exceptional.
I believe Baldwin makes, or at least distributes, Wurlitzer pianos, but I don't think they have anything that's larger than 5'8". I'm still kind of puzzled.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on June 22, 2004, 08:03:21 PM
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I believe Baldwin makes, or at least distributes, Wurlitzer pianos, but I don't think they have anything that's larger than 5'8". I'm still kind of puzzled.


well thank you... now you have me guessing lol.  From what i remember, the guy told me it was a wurlitzer.  It was 9 feet.  concert grande.  I could be mistaken though.  i dont believe it was a kawai, but now i'm going to have to call him and see, so once i do i'll have to post again.  I'm pretty sure i'm right though.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on June 22, 2004, 08:23:20 PM
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I believe Baldwin makes, or at least distributes, Wurlitzer pianos, but I don't think they have anything that's larger than 5'8". I'm still kind of puzzled.


Wow...ok i just called them and i found out..the 130,000 was a hand crafted Kawai EX.  The other piano that i played was a 90,000 hand crafted wurlitzer.  i believe it was smaller like you said.  ii also played on some limited edition Kawai grand hand crafted pianos.  
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Axtremus on June 22, 2004, 09:49:31 PM
Now I am curious. As far as I know, Baldwin's only 9' grand in production is the SD-10. I am not aware that they make Wurlitzer-branded 9' grand. It would be nice to know if the 9' Wurlitzer is new or used (year of manufacture). Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Tash on June 23, 2004, 01:54:15 PM
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I've never played on one, but my ex-piano teacher played on one and loved it as well.  They have some that have 8 extra keys on the bass side, which makes them quite tasteful.  have you ever played on a wurlitzner?  If not you should.  They are very nice pianos.  The one i played on had a very rich lovely sound.  


ok i don't know how an extra 8 notes would make it any better to play on, sure it's cool but not of a great use i would think. no i don't think i've played on a wurlitzner, haven't heard of one til this thread, i swear they don't exist in australia. before coming here the extent of my knowledge of piano makers was steinway, yamaha, kawai and several random ones, how unknowledgable am i! basically steinways are the almighty praise pianos down under, but i'd really like to try some others if they're around...
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Saturn on June 23, 2004, 02:38:52 PM
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ok i don't know how an extra 8 notes would make it any better to play on, sure it's cool but not of a great use i would think.


I think the main purpose of the extra notes is to add resonance to the piano.  When the strings of the extra bass notes vibrate sympathetically with other notes, there should be a fuller tone.  The Bosendorfers I've played have had an incredibly resonant tone to them (much more so than any other piano), but I'm not sure if that's more due to the extra bass notes or the design of the instrument.

- Saturn
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: xvimbi on June 23, 2004, 04:39:32 PM
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I think the main purpose of the extra notes is to add resonance to the piano.  When the strings of the extra bass notes vibrate sympathetically with other notes, there should be a fuller tone.  The Bosendorfers I've played have had an incredibly resonant tone to them (much more so than any other piano), but I'm not sure if that's more due to the extra bass notes or the design of the instrument.
Saturn

Beyond adding more resonance, I believe the original intent was to allow pieces by Bartok and Ravel and other modern composers to be played. They make use of additional notes in the bass register.
What I find really funnny though is that they are either painted black and/or covered with a piece of cloth so as to not confuse the average pianist  ;D
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on June 23, 2004, 05:49:06 PM
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Now I am curious. As far as I know, Baldwin's only 9' grand in production is the SD-10. I am not aware that they make Wurlitzer-branded 9' grand. It would be nice to know if the 9' Wurlitzer is new or used (year of manufacture). Thanks. :)


Well as far as i've been told they dont make a 9'.  I was mistaken.  They do make smaller grandes though, and that was the one i was talking about.  I dont know much about them.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Tash on June 24, 2004, 02:12:51 PM
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I think the main purpose of the extra notes is to add resonance to the piano.  When the strings of the extra bass notes vibrate sympathetically with other notes, there should be a fuller tone.  The Bosendorfers I've played have had an incredibly resonant tone to them (much more so than any other piano), but I'm not sure if that's more due to the extra bass notes or the design of the instrument.

- Saturn



oh ok that sounds yum :) don't you find the perfect way to describe pianos and their music as 'yum'? now i just need to go find a bosendorfer and play one...
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Spatula on June 24, 2004, 09:39:12 PM
My most fav sounding piano was the one I performed my Gr 8 Exam on, don't know what brand : ( but it was I think a 5 1/2 ' grand piano with a perfect and delicate sound to it.   I guess just because the bigger the piano, doesn't necessarily translate to a better sound, even though they might be made the same year, same condition...l
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Post by: penelope on June 28, 2004, 10:33:57 AM
Sauter  :D
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Post by: argerich_smitten on July 30, 2004, 07:35:20 AM
I played on this young chang one time........
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Goldberg on July 31, 2004, 08:41:25 AM
There are a few which come to mind. When I first started playing, I was absolutely overwhelmed when I came across a brand new Steinway D in a shop in New Mexico (it was the first concert grand I'd ever seen, let alone play). It was absolutely perfect, even by my standards today. But, not my favourite.
Others include a wonderful, wonderful Bechstein in the Klavierhaus in New York, a Dakota something or other special edition Steinway at Steinway Hall, and a few other D's as well from various places around the U.S. But my absolute favourite piano so far is a special Chopin edition Bosendorfer which I saw at a local store here. I understand there are only 7 in the world...the one I played on was beyond perfect. It was one of those pianos you just can't stop playing.
I also very much enjoy the Millennium edition Bosendorfers, of which I've played two.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Piazzo22 on August 01, 2004, 07:52:36 AM
The best piano I ever played is an old August Förster (Löbau) "concert" upright.
I´ve practiced on some Yamaha and Kawai grands and on a Steinway NY.
August Förster upright, still my favourite.
I would like to play a new August Förster grand. Can´t Imagine!!
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Axtremus on August 04, 2004, 09:54:56 PM
Fazioli F-228. Played two, both superb in every measure (except their price tags). ;D

Also a rebuilt Hamburg Steinway Model D in KlavierHaus in New York. (Wish I could spend more time with it to try its limits, to see how far I could take it.)
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: thomas_williams on August 06, 2004, 11:34:35 PM
By far the best piano I have ever played is a Steinway Model D.  It had an awesome feel and beautiful tone.  I have never yet had the opportunity to try a Bosendorfer but but would like to.
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Post by: Motrax on August 15, 2004, 02:19:08 AM
I just played on a Steingraeber & Sohne (that's not a Steinway, it's leagues above  :)), about 6 feet long, and it was simply the most incredible piano I've ever played.

It felt like instead of one cohesive piano, each note was a seperate instrument. It felt like I was conducting an orchestra rather than playing on a piano. This allowed for the most stunning counterpoint and voicing I've ever encountered on any piano.

The dynamic range is incredible, but pounding the hell out of the thing still produces a beautiful, singing tone. You can play pianissimo with such splended magnificence...

And most incredibly, it was absolutely effortless. I've never felt such control over the sound I produced. Some pianos require adjusting to, but the only adjusting needed with this was not to get hung up on every single note because they are all so beautiful.

Not only is this piano good for solo practice, but it's incredible for chamber music as well. I don't understand it, but even when you play as loud as you can, you'd still hear a pindrop from across the room. Rather than drowning everything with it's power, it seems to flood and flow and enrich all the other musical instruments near it.

The one catch is that it cost about 75,000 USD. But if I could buy this piano one day, I'd just retire right then and there.
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Post by: Goldberg on August 15, 2004, 06:09:36 PM
I wanted to add a more recent discovery. I went to the local store again a few days ago and saw this absolutely wonderful Bechstein. It was used, and it really needed a tuning (even my non-musical dad could tell) but MAN could that thing make music. Usually, out of tune pianos put me off, but I couldn't stop playing it, and after a while, its tuning didn't matter one bit...because it had such TONE that I'd rarely heard before. Bechsteins are so incredibly beautiful....I must say, if I'd played more of them (only two so far) I would probably name it as my favourite. For now, I can really only call it "better than Steinway" lol.
I do wonder if anyone knows how much such a Bechstein would cost, though. It was about the size of a Steinway B, maybe just a bit less (well, let's just say it's around 6 ft) and was 20 years old, but had ivory keys. I haven't been able to find the information anywhere, so could someone first tell me how much a new one might go for, and then perhaps how much the used one could be, if fairly priced.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: mitchking on August 20, 2004, 08:58:39 AM
One of the nicest pianos i've ever heard is in my living room, a 7'2" August Forster, a new one.  Every note is really nice, especially in the base section.  I also have a good Bosendorfer 200CS (about 2 years old) in the master bedroom but it isn't as strong as the Forster but it is 5" shorter.  Bosendorfer tends to be a softer and maybe a prettier tone, definitely not as loud of a piano, an excellent piano for a home.  The spruce rim keeps Bosendorfers on the quieter and mellower side.  I have a 6' C. Bechstein grand that has the typical Bechstein sound.  It is bright but I like the C. Bechstein sound.  I also have a Bluthner 6'3" restored that sounds almost as good as a new one but not quiet as clear but it costs 35k less too.   I've had two Steinways in the past that I don't think come close to any European luxury piano.  The best Steinway I've heard is a Hamburg D at the Benaroya Hall in Seattle 2 months ago.  I heard the Hamburg D Steinway at Carnegie is heavenly from a concert artist.  Anyone interested in the Bluthner, I'll sell it for $18k. ;)
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: steinwaymodeld on August 21, 2004, 12:56:50 PM
Steinway Model D (NY and Hamburg)
Bosendorfer M290 (with the extra keys)
Fazioli F278
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on August 21, 2004, 05:26:10 PM
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One of the nicest pianos i've ever heard is in my living room, a 7'2" August Forster, a new one.  Every note is really nice, especially in the base section.  I also have a good Bosendorfer 200CS (about 2 years old) in the master bedroom but it isn't as strong as the Forster but it is 5" shorter.  Bosendorfer tends to be a softer and maybe a prettier tone, definitely not as loud of a piano, an excellent piano for a home.  The spruce rim keeps Bosendorfers on the quieter and mellower side.  I have a 6' C. Bechstein grand that has the typical Bechstein sound.  It is bright but I like the C. Bechstein sound.  I also have a Bluthner 6'3" restored that sounds almost as good as a new one but not quiet as clear but it costs 35k less too.   I've had two Steinways in the past that I don't think come close to any European luxury piano.  The best Steinway I've heard is a Hamburg D at the Benaroya Hall in Seattle 2 months ago.  I heard the Hamburg D Steinway at Carnegie is heavenly from a concert artist.  Anyone interested in the Bluthner, I'll sell it for $18k. ;)


ARE YOU RICH???  How in the world do you have pianos like that in your own house!  I'm very jealous
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Post by: Ashley_Steinway on August 24, 2004, 11:07:32 PM
Well, I have a Steinway D in my bedroom, and two C's in the Spare bedrooms. A Boesendorfer Chrysler Edition for show in the drawing room, and a 290SE in the study, just for practise. I have a 7' Bluthner in the orangery, and another Steinway D in the master bedroom.

Now all of that sarcasm was just so I could vent my envy, toward you.

I think you are living out all of our dreams.

Anywho, the nicest piano I have played is a Steinway Model C at school. It is 85 yrs old, so a good period, but battered by the musically illiterate students. I hate them. But still, I love the piano.

Aah, I long for the day I get to go to Steinway London. Oh wait, I'm going Monday!! YAY!
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Post by: wynnbear on August 26, 2004, 05:39:13 AM
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lol actually i believe you are right.  I'm not very familar with the "wurlitzer" (thanks for the correction)  but i do know that the piano i played on was brand new.  and it was wonderful.  maybe they have made poor pianos, but the new ones (or the ones i've played on) were exceptional.



They are made in China now.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Spatula on August 27, 2004, 12:57:53 AM
Crazy chinese pianos, just like every chinese product: cheap
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: mozartgonebad on August 28, 2004, 01:53:11 AM
the nicest piano ive played on was in a competition...
fazioli grand, not sure what model, but it looked like a F280 or a F308...
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Post by: schmetterling on August 28, 2004, 06:10:55 PM
The most beautiful piano I frequently play on is my teacher's K.Kawai grand. It's got just the most beautiful and majestic tone. I'm absolutely in love with her piano!
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Post by: Motrax on August 29, 2004, 04:58:40 PM
I've now fallen in love with the old Kawaii upright in the basement of my dormitory. It's terribly out of tune, and although the action is relatively light, it doesn't go much higher than mezzo forte. I like it because it has a very even (if lousy) tone, and the action is also very even. If I can make music from this junk heap, then I know I'll be phenominal on any other piano. It's the most wonderful thing to practice on in the world, and I can practice on it literally any time of day (I playing 'till 2 in the morning yesterday!).

Mmmm...  ;D
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: larse on August 31, 2004, 12:47:17 AM
Steinway and Sohns...A model from 1884 (exactly 100 years older than me). It was like a dream, and because of an unfixable hole in the bottom, it costed only 40,000 NOK ~ 5000 USD. If I had the money I would have owned it...
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Post by: chopinrules2005 on September 14, 2004, 11:10:05 AM
Granted it was in a piano showroom which was pretty dry, I know that this piano would have shined in a concert hall..

A $60,000 Baldwin concert grand.... beats the hell out of the Baldwin E-101 I have now. (Upright)

I'd give my life to win the lotto and have my own grand piano and music hall :=) (just kidding)
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Post by: chopin_girl on October 14, 2004, 10:19:10 PM
that would be a grand concert steinway and sons
in tuzla,bosnia herzegovina.
that is the youngest grand concert piano in ex-yugoslavia.

i also played on a wonderful bösendorfer in zagreb,croatia.
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Post by: Waldszenen on October 15, 2004, 10:30:18 AM
Top Three:


1. Fazioli, the grand right before F308 (I think it's the F278)

2. Hamburg Steinway D

3. Hamburg Steinway C



I also like Bosendorfers a lot but I prefer the Hamburg Steinway touch and tone. I don't like NY Steinways, and especially not Horowitz's one (eg his Rach 3s with Mehta and Ormandy or his Liszt HR2.... ugh).
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Shagdac on October 17, 2004, 02:43:29 AM
Just yesterday, I went into a new Piano Gallery where they sell all different high end pianos. I played for quite awhile on a CBechstein, Forster and Bosendorffer (sp)Grands. Really enjoyed them all. The Bechstein (I thought) had a really rich tone. Very $$$$. The Bechstein was probably my favorite. There's a 8-9' Kawai I get to play on every week at a music store that lets me use there recital hall just to practice a few hours...thats really nice too, but nothing like the Bechstein. I'd like to have one, but would first have to buy a bigger house to put it in! ;)

S :)
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: galonia on October 17, 2004, 09:47:21 AM
Just a comment to tashs_tiara, I'm from Sydney as well, and the only time I've seen a Boesendorfer in Sydney was when they once sponsored the Sydney International Piano Competition - unfortunately, they didn't provide instruments for the 2004 competition.  But I played a lovely Boesendorfer in London a few years ago and totally fell in love with it.  A lot of people in Australia have never heard of Boesendorfers.  It is a shame that Steinways, Yamahas and Kawais are the only pianos people think are good here.  However, one of my friends has played a Boesendorfer in Sydney, so I don't think they're impossible to get - probably if you buy a second hand one that someone has imported.
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Post by: Floristan on October 29, 2004, 03:46:50 PM
the nicest piano i have played was a Steinway grand (i have no idea what type it was unfortunately) at the Sydney Conservatorium, and all i can say about it is YUM it was so nice, i got to practice during the lunch break and was like can this just never end, or can i steal this piano and take it home with me? mmm very nice, could make anything sound good.

question: i've never encountered a bosendorfer or even heard of one until i came to this forum- maybe they don't have them here in australia i don't know. but that pic of the one saturn put up looks hell nice!wow i've never seen such an incredible looking piano!i want one! anyway, many of you praise them so much, so can i ask, for those who have played on a steinway and a bosendorfer, what's the difference? i'm very curious

Being Australian, have you ever played a Stuart & Sons piano?  The 2.9 meter model is supposedly significantly better than the Bosendorfer Imperial.  There are almost none outside Australia, apparently.  Maybe you could locate one, give it a try, and report back.  I'd love to get a first-hand account of this piano.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on November 06, 2004, 02:21:33 AM
Hey just to update everyone lol  I'm about to play on a $100,000 bosendorfer (Spelling?)  but id otn know what model or anything.  I know its gold.  thats about it.  Its at the university and i'll be playing on it in December so i'll let y'all know just as soon as i find out.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: LJC on November 10, 2004, 07:29:09 PM
I really like the S&S D (Hamburg) I just bought. When in college there was a particular S&S B I liked better than the others and there was a Mason and Hamlin BB that was superb. My professor had a Yamaha C3 which I was impressed with at the time but it was not the best, just very good. Having read the other comments I would most like to try the big Fazioli. I like the sound of the Bosendorfer Imperial too. Personally I'd like to own one of each and I think that would be the only way to say I had the best piano.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: rohansahai on November 14, 2004, 10:17:46 AM
I recently played at a competition in Mumbai where i played on a Grotrian Steinweg.
I have no words for it! It was simply superb! The touch was light (you felt like flying on it), the tone was lovely and surprisingly, the sound was quite big (despite the light touch). Don't know its cost though!
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Ed Thomas on November 15, 2004, 03:18:58 AM
Mason and Hamlin.  Never met one yet that I didn't like at least a litte bit... and sometimes... oh, my!
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: aki on November 16, 2004, 06:37:35 AM
Next week, my sister gets to play at some concert, and the piano is going to be a Steinway 9ft, yes a STEINWAY 9 ft grand piano...  The amazing thing is that she doesn't even seem all that excited.. and I'm dying to play on one.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Babcock on November 16, 2004, 12:02:58 PM
Actually,  a Steinway D is not 9 feet long --- it's 8 feet, 11 3/4 inches long.  Steinway has never advertised that they have  a 9 foot piano.  My own D is one of the nicest on which I've played,  but there have been many fine pianos, too many to choose one in particular.  Pianos, like people, have their strengths and their weaknesses.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: LJC on November 17, 2004, 05:59:24 PM
Aki, There are lots of model D's around. I'm sure you can find one to try. I've noticed several people have commented about owning one privately. Unless you live in a place thats really remote there should be on nearby. Where do you live?
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: J E Brewer on December 06, 2004, 06:07:28 AM
Hello,

I am new here but after seeing this topic I felt compelled to respond. The absolute best piano I have ever played on is a new Mason & Hamlin Model BB (7'). The tone, touch, and power was simply extraordinary. If I had to make a quick decision and purchase one piano immediately this would be the one. Truely impressive I must say.

I have never played on a Bosendorfer Imperial Grand, although I would love to do so. It has a full 97 keys, 9 more than a traditional keyboard. By the way, the extra keys were originally added at the request of the Italian composer Ferruccio Busoni, who was transcribing Bach's Passacaglia in C minor and found the he needed the bottom C. The addition makes the compass of the piano CCC - c5.

J. E. Brewer
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: chickering9 on December 16, 2004, 06:35:28 AM


Being Australian, have you ever played a Stuart & Sons piano?  The 2.9 meter model is supposedly significantly better than the Bosendorfer Imperial.  There are almost none outside Australia, apparently.  Maybe you could locate one, give it a try, and report back.  I'd love to get a first-hand account of this piano.

I'm intrigued by this piano myself.  I've heard a Stuart used for jazz recordings and classical recordings.  The jazz recordings most seduced me.  I understand the 2.9 M goes for around $250K.  :(    I've played some fine pianos, but I'm happiest with my old Chickering concert grand.  I've truly enjoyed an old Knabe concert grand and a late 19th century Boesendorfer 7-footer.  I loved the fleet of Steinway L's in college (they were new and well-maintained).  Beautiful tone can come in unexpected places.  One such was a massive old 1896 Kimball upright.  Action pretty much shot, but
gorgeous tone.  The larger Stuart, Steingraeber and Fazioli are on my list that I hope to someday find and play.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: valen1 on December 17, 2004, 12:23:16 AM
Stainway and Sons I want to say 5' 11". I play it every Friday at my lessons. The touch is out of this world. The bass could be stronger. My Chickering (6" 5') HAS A
BOOMING BASS SECTION. Well I guess it's a toss up between the two.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: alice oliver on December 18, 2004, 05:14:13 PM
i shopped intensively for a piano for two years before buying my grotrian grand.  and for the past three years i've continued to play many different makes of pianos in many different venues.

i think there are two categories to this question.  one is, what is the piano that you would want to take home to be your own, more than any other?  and then there is which piano impressed you the most.  there are a lot of very impressive pianos that i would not personally want to own, but still they are very inspiring.

when all is said and done, my grotrian is the best piano i have ever played.  but it sounds and plays differently on different days, depending on the humidity and how in or out of tune the unisons are.  it has had days when i wanted to prostrate myself on the floor before it in gratitude and amazement that i was its custodian.  it has had other days when i could not stand it and had to keep the lid down and covered with a blanket to finish my practicing.

how any piano sounds changes from day to day. and the kind of tuning it has has a big impact, too.

now having said that my grotrian remains my personal favorite as the nicest, there have been other pianos that also moved me very deeply and that i would also consider owning:

the charles walter 6' grand
a shigeru kawai concert grand
a vintage pleyel grand
a petrof 131 upright
a vintage bechstein upright
a vintage and rebuilt steinway AIII
a limited edition 150th anniversary new york steinway B (i think they only made 300 of these, i just played it at steinway hall.  why they don't make all their pianos to this standard i will never understand.)

then there are other pianos that are very nice, but i wouldn't particularly wish to own.


a hamburg steinway D that was voiced to be warmer than usual
a steinway L with hamburg hammers and action and a new york belly.
august forsters are very nice
sauter omega is very nice and quite beautiful as a piece of furniture

i like a warm, powerful, dark, rich, yet clear tone.  rounded and "creamy" as one tech i know calls it.  that describes the grotrian.  it's a very difficult sound to produce on a piano.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Nina_too on December 21, 2004, 03:38:28 PM
The best piano I've ever played was a rebuilt Seiler approx. 6-footer of early World War II vintage.  It had a beautiful, tight ringing quality to it that I found unusual and very lovely, particularly for a home.

The best piano I've ever heard is a Boesendorfer 290 here in town, which I will get a chance to play on in a few weeks, I think.  So perhaps I'll need to change my answer after that!
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on January 01, 2005, 07:59:14 PM
Hey just to update everyone lol  I'm about to play on a $100,000 bosendorfer (Spelling?)  but id otn know what model or anything.  I know its gold.  thats about it.  Its at the university and i'll be playing on it in December so i'll let y'all know just as soon as i find out.

Just for a little update, I played that recital iwas talking about here and omgosh the piano was excellent.  Though i was a little disappointed in the quality of the acoustics :(  The floor that the piano sat on sucked as well, but the piano its self was great.  And its not gold, i dont know where in the crap i came up with that one lol its Black and still great.  It has 8 extra keys on the bass :D
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: amanfang on January 01, 2005, 08:57:46 PM
My favorite to play on is our Bosendorfer Imperial grand at school (University) in the concert hall.  It has such a rich sound!
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on January 01, 2005, 11:04:36 PM
My favorite to play on is our Bosendorfer Imperial grand at school (University) in the concert hall.  It has such a rich sound!

What university if you dont mind me asking you.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: noelle on January 02, 2005, 02:39:21 AM
I watched my friend play on a Fazioli in London.  It wasn't her piano, and she got yelled at ...

But the nicest thing I've played on is a Steinway Grand.  I don't remember what model it was.
I've tried a few pianos that still have ivory keys, but they weren't exactly ... good pianos.

As a cellist, too, I've played my teacher's $20,000 (US) antique French cello.  It was so amazing.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: ivoryplayer4him on January 02, 2005, 06:37:18 PM
I watched my friend play on a Fazioli in London.  It wasn't her piano, and she got yelled at ...

But the nicest thing I've played on is a Steinway Grand.  I don't remember what model it was.
I've tried a few pianos that still have ivory keys, but they weren't exactly ... good pianos.

As a cellist, too, I've played my teacher's $20,000 (US) antique French cello.  It was so amazing.

I have never played on a Steinway.  I hope too someday soon :)
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: xvimbi on January 02, 2005, 07:07:51 PM
I have never played on a Steinway.  I hope too someday soon :)

The simplest way to get to know a wide range of instruments is to go to a store when you have the chance. They usually let people play on any piano they have, particularly if people pretend that they are in the market for an instrument. You'd be amazed how much you can learn about all kinds of pianos (one has to learn to subtract sales-pitch though). And you will also find that Steinway is by far not the pinnacle of all pianos and that there are a lot of manufacturers out there that make pianos that are at least as "good".
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: olivarius on January 02, 2005, 11:41:57 PM
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The simplest way to get to know a wide range of instruments is to go to a store when you have the chance. They usually let people play on any piano they have, particularly if people pretend that they are in the market for an instrument.

hehe, that's right; 
 always take care when choosing you cloths to go to a piano store;
 they'll respect you a lot and will even make the door open for you and treat you like a king  if you say your have a great interest in steinways :)
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Rich D. on January 03, 2005, 07:34:08 PM
I've been lucky enough to play on a number of high quality grands over the years, all of which I would love to have.  A few 7 footers that have really stood out for me in no particular order have been the Steingraeber  6'9"(best action in the business with a tone somewhere between a NY and Hamburg Steinway), Grotrian 7'5"(lyrical warm tone, powerful), Mason Hamlin BB (oh what a bass!) and a Hamburg Steinway.   One surprising 6 foot rebuilt piano that really impressed me was a 6 foot something Lester (originally made out of Philly).  Of course the reason for this was that the piano was rebuilt by a top notch rebuilder as his own instrument which only goes to show how critical it is to have a great piano tech rebuild and maintain your instrument.
Title: Re: Nicest Piano you have ever played on?
Post by: Alde on January 06, 2005, 03:17:18 AM
New York Steinway D rules!