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Title: Competition Repertoire
Post by: steinwayguy on July 03, 2005, 03:39:16 AM
I'm not really familiar with what is a good "competition program". So, what set of pieces from the list below would constitute a good program for a competition?

Schubert- Piano Sonata in B-flat, D.960
Beethoven- Piano Sonata No. 4 in E-flat, Op. 7
Chopin- Ballade No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 52
Chopin- Two Etudes Op. 10 No. 3-4
Chopin- Etude in C-sharp Minor, Op. 25 No. 7
Chopin- Etude in E Minor, Op. 25 No. 5
Liszt- Mephisto Waltz
Brahms- Four Klavierstucke Op. 119
Bartok- Suite Op. 14
Rachmaninoff- Etudes-Tableaux in F-sharp Minor, Op. 39 No. 3
Rachmaninoff- Four Preludes Op. 32 No. 10-13
Ravel- Le Tombeau de Couperin
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: pianonut on July 03, 2005, 03:53:16 AM
what if - asm1469says - what if you threw caution to the wind:

liszt transcription of something of bach's

all the chopin etudes listed

liszt mephisto waltz

ravel - le tomb


or

conservatively:

schubert - piano sonata in B-flat

brahms - four klavierstucke op. 119

bartok - suite op. 14

rachmaninov - preludes op. 32 10-13 ?
 

         
















Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: wintervind on July 03, 2005, 10:33:29 AM
Anything overplayed
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: kghayesh on July 03, 2005, 10:56:03 AM
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Anything overplayed
I don't think playing an overplayed thing is a much good idea. Just the music will familiar to the jury and any mistake even a slight one will be so noticeable.

I remember going to a competition when one of the requirements was a Beethoven sonata. Most competitors played the Pathetique, and my god these were the worst pathetique i've ever heard in my life.
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: shasta on July 03, 2005, 12:22:32 PM
Baroque - Soler
Classical - Hummel
Romantic - Granados
20thC - Ives
 ;D

Steinwayguy, your composers are so "standard."   :-[  Throw caution to the wind!
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: pokeythepenguin on July 03, 2005, 11:09:53 PM
Baroque - Soler
Classical - Hummel
Romantic - Granados
20thC - Ives
 ;D

Steinwayguy, your composers are so "standard."   :-[  Throw caution to the wind!


Aww I don't think he was asking for his Repertoire to be critiqued....  and Ives?  Yeah.. hey steinway go learn the Concord Sonata really quick XD


We kinda need to know how long the round is though.  But for a 60 minute recital round, I would use:

Chopin Ballade No. 4
Ravel Le Tombeau de Couperin
Bartok Suite Op. 14
Liszt Mephisto Waltz
Rachmaninov Preludes Op. 32 Nos. 10 and 12

Though I would highly suggest learning a Scarlatti Sonata or other short Baroque Era piece and fitting it in somewhere.
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: steinwayguy on July 04, 2005, 04:23:21 AM

Aww I don't think he was asking for his Repertoire to be critiqued.... and Ives? Yeah.. hey steinway go learn the Concord Sonata really quick XD


We kinda need to know how long the round is though. But for a 60 minute recital round, I would use:

Chopin Ballade No. 4
Ravel Le Tombeau de Couperin
Bartok Suite Op. 14
Liszt Mephisto Waltz
Rachmaninov Preludes Op. 32 Nos. 10 and 12

Though I would highly suggest learning a Scarlatti Sonata or other short Baroque Era piece and fitting it in somewhere.

That would be a good program, but it's too romantic and 20th century heavy. Schubert is a must, otherwise Beethoven Opus 7. And the only repertoire requirements are works from two different periods and stylistically contrasting compositions. So, technically, I could get away with doing just two pieces, but that wouldn't be a good idea. The only Baroque music I have in my repertoire are two-part inventions and preludes and fugues.
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: pokeythepenguin on July 04, 2005, 05:04:02 AM
Yeah you're right ^^  Sorry about that I'm just not very Schubert/Beethoven inclined.  But I think doing the Schubert is probably not a wise decision as it is so long and would take up most of the round, which isn't too good of an idea.  Either way, after thinking about it a bit more, use one of those two part inventions or p/f's, even if they aren't really the hardest, the beethoven sonata, the bartok and fill the rest with whatever of the romantic rep you're most comfortable with, though if you're equally skilled with all of it the Mephisto Waltz and the Chopin Ballad would be my picks.
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: steinwayguy on July 08, 2005, 04:12:31 AM
Is it best to keep the repertoire at a minimum or offer a wide variety of pieces for the judges to pick from? My current program is...

Scarlatti- Two Sonatas, K. 141 and 491
Schubert- Piano Sonata in B-flat, D.960 "Molto Moderato"
Liszt- Mephisto Waltz No. 1
Chopin- Ballade No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 52
Ravel- Le Tombeau de Couperin
Rachmaninoff- Etudes-Tableaux in F-sharp Minor, Op. 39 No. 3
Rachmaninoff- Concerto No. 3 in D Minor, Op. 30 "Allegro ma non tanto"

The concerto movement will only be in the second and final rounds.

Is this program way too big like I think it might be?
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: Skeptopotamus on July 08, 2005, 04:14:09 AM
o.O  That's alot of music.  I'd be surprised if that all fit into whatever time limit they had.
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: pianote on July 08, 2005, 05:45:28 AM
I'm not really familiar with what is a good "competition program". So, what set of pieces from the list below would constitute a good program for a competition?

Schubert- Piano Sonata in B-flat, D.960
Beethoven- Piano Sonata No. 4 in E-flat, Op. 7
Chopin- Ballade No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 52
Chopin- Two Etudes Op. 10 No. 3-4
Chopin- Etude in C-sharp Minor, Op. 25 No. 7
Chopin- Etude in E Minor, Op. 25 No. 5
Liszt- Mephisto Waltz
Brahms- Four Klavierstucke Op. 119
Bartok- Suite Op. 14
Rachmaninoff- Etudes-Tableaux in F-sharp Minor, Op. 39 No. 3
Rachmaninoff- Four Preludes Op. 32 No. 10-13
Ravel- Le Tombeau de Couperin

i'd go with...

chopin- ballade no.4
bartok- out of doors suite or op.14
rachmanininoff- etudes tableux

you might want to add a stronger classical piece...

more contrast too- it's very romantic/ impressionistic heavy
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: steinwayguy on July 08, 2005, 11:31:16 PM
i'd go with...

chopin- ballade no.4
bartok- out of doors suite
rachmanininoff- etudes tableux

you might want to add a stronger classical piece...

more contrast too- it's very romantic/ impressionistic heavy

The Op. 14 Suite is not the same as the Out of Doors suite.

and the pieces that are still in contention are the ones I listed in my last post-
Scarlatti- Two Sonatas, K. 141 and 491
Schubert- Piano Sonata in B-flat, D.960 "Molto Moderato"
Liszt- Mephisto Waltz No. 1
Chopin- Ballade No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 52
Ravel- Le Tombeau de Couperin
Rachmaninoff- Etudes-Tableaux in F-sharp Minor, Op. 39 No. 3
Rachmaninoff- Concerto No. 3 in D Minor, Op. 30 "Allegro ma non tanto"
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: MattL on July 09, 2005, 01:55:06 AM
The rach etude tableaux is absolutely amazing (39 -3) if it is played correctly
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: montiverdirocks on July 10, 2005, 04:09:16 AM
Another discussion about recital programs! Yay!
You would be good to learn a scarlatti sonata or two.
I hope that the judges don't look at you and your age and automatically decide that you can't play the Schubert. Be careful. I know you can do it.
Title: Re: Competition Repertoire
Post by: steinwayguy on July 10, 2005, 04:19:30 AM
Another discussion about recital programs! Yay!
You would be good to learn a scarlatti sonata or two.
I hope that the judges don't look at you and your age and automatically decide that you can't play the Schubert. Be careful. I know you can do it.

I don't think they'll care as much as they would about late Beethoven.