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Title: 20th (or 21st) Century sonatas?
Post by: burstroman on August 28, 2005, 04:59:34 AM
What are some of the 20th or (21st) century sonatas you have in your repetoire or plan to add?
  Mine are not that many but include:  Ginastera #1, Prokofiev, 2, 7, Bartok, and Tippett # 2.  I would like to add Ives (Three Page Sonata), Shostakovich #1, and Chavez # 2.
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Post by: pita bread on August 28, 2005, 05:45:37 AM
Want to play:

Barber Sonata Op. 26
Bartok Sonata
Bridge Sonata
Dutilleux Sonata Op. 1
Feinberg Sonata #2
Kapustin Sonata-Fantasie #1
Prokofiev Sonata #8
Rachmaninoff Sonata #1
Ravel Sonatine (heh, the only I can do in a week or so)
Scriabin Sonata(s) #4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. 10
Sciarrino Sonata #1
Sorabji Sonata #1
Vine Sonata
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Post by: pita bread on August 29, 2005, 07:51:48 AM
Heh, the lack of responses on this topic is probably due to the fact that most of the people here want to play the same few pieces again and again.
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Post by: Etude on August 29, 2005, 09:19:23 AM
want to learn:

PRokofiev: sonata no. 2,6,7
Sorabji.... 1
Rachmaninov: 1
Barber: yep

um.. thats it..
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Post by: tolkien on August 29, 2005, 10:34:52 AM
The Medtner and Scriabin sonatas.
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Post by: larse on August 29, 2005, 10:21:19 PM
Medtner, Bartok, Kapustin(if you're into that sort of thing) and the other obvious ones are the dutilleux, barber and alban berg sonatas. And there's a Sonata by Sofia Gubaidolina, which I'm told is very hard, but great.

but there's more..and I cannot see why one should play just sonatas.

Messiaen: Vingt Regardes sur l'enfant Jesus
Dutilleux: 3 Preludes
and much moree of course.

Then of course, there's always Rachmaninov, Scriabin, Prokofiev and other 'light' music..
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Post by: dmk on August 29, 2005, 11:46:22 PM
Heaps of them...some I can already play....most I need to add!

Vine: Sonata 2
Westlake: Sonata (1997)
Elliot Carter: Sonata (1946)
Ginastera: I can already play 2 & 3 but I would like to add no 1
Janacek: Sonata 1/X/1905
Bryan Kelly: Sonata
Kabalevsky: Sonata no 3

This should keep me occupied into the next millenium;)...let alone all the other stuff I would like to play!
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Post by: pita bread on August 30, 2005, 12:17:51 AM
The Gubaidulina Sonata and Chaconne are both kinda "ehh."
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Post by: quantum on August 30, 2005, 04:35:07 AM
Would like to learn:
Andre Jolivet's Sonata #1
Boulez #1
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Post by: larse on August 30, 2005, 05:51:51 AM
Heh...I'm not really much into the gubaidolina sonata. Just thought I'd mention it.

Oh, Common repertoire

Ginastera: Danzas Argentiñas and the sonatas which were mentioned

and you should really check out Lowell Lieberman..The Gargaoyles Op. 29(1989) are 4 short but great pieces
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Post by: tariswerewolf on August 30, 2005, 03:59:58 PM
my first piano sonata is always up for a premiere.
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Post by: phil13 on August 30, 2005, 05:31:59 PM
So is mine, although the solo piano one I've written is less 20th century and more in the Romantic style. (So is basically everything I write.)

My sonata for piano and violin is finally finished (3 and a half months to write). Maybe someone could put that up for a premiere.
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Post by: pita bread on August 30, 2005, 07:36:02 PM
The Auric Sonata is pretty cool too.
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Post by: etudes on August 30, 2005, 08:00:30 PM
all prokofiev and scriabin  ;D
boulez 2nd
Barber Sonata Op. 26
Bartok Sonata
Rachmaninov 1st and 2nd
Ginastera all 3
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Post by: mikey6 on August 31, 2005, 02:52:26 AM
Does anyone know the Griffes sonata? any good?
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Post by: happyface94 on August 31, 2005, 03:33:54 AM
That Strauss op5.
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Post by: pita bread on August 31, 2005, 04:17:32 AM
Griffes sonata is supposed to be in a different vein than his other works, I've heard that it's rather solemn compared to the splashy impressionistic style he used in his earlier works.
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Post by: kriskicksass on September 01, 2005, 03:30:24 AM
I'd like to use the Barok Sonata as my 20th century requirement when auditioning to conservatories, but it's kinda monsterous...  :P
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Post by: proklover on September 17, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
Ives
Prokofiev : 2, 7, 8, 4, 5
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Post by: 49410enrique on September 17, 2012, 10:51:28 PM
i studied kabalevsky no 3, really loved it. so many great themes and ideas , very well constructed. i like the other two but not quite as much, no 1 is very reminiscent of prokofiev imho, so that one intrigues me more than no 2.

i think if i go very modern in the future i might want to have a crack at the leonard bernstein sonata, just got the score recently , looks super cool.

and kapustin, yeah any of them, all of them, you name it. love them all!
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Post by: 49410enrique on September 18, 2012, 01:16:06 AM
i studied kabalevsky no 3, really loved it. so many great themes and ideas , very well constructed. i like the other two but not quite as much, no 1 is very reminiscent of prokofiev imho, so that one intrigues me more than no 2.

i think in the future i might want to have a crack at the leonard bernstein sonata, just got the score recently , looks super cool.

and kapustin, yeah any of them, all of them, you name it. love them all!
i don't think i can upload my recording of it from my bernstein complete works for piano cd but here is a streaming link to the first movement. it's one of his earliest works from when he was still a student a curtis (*1938 i think)
https://soundcloud.com/alexanderfreymusic/bernstein
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Post by: rachmaninoff_forever on September 18, 2012, 02:12:07 AM
All of the Carl Vine and Scriabin sonatas.
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Post by: j_menz on September 18, 2012, 02:28:27 AM
All of the Carl Vine and Scriabin sonatas.

The first 3 Scriabin sonatas are 19th century (1892, 1897 and 1898)
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Post by: rachmaninoff_forever on September 18, 2012, 02:45:35 AM
The first 3 Scriabin sonatas are 19th century (1892, 1897 and 1898)

Fine everything after the first three.

I forgot to include the Rachmaninoff sonatas as well.
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Post by: j_menz on September 18, 2012, 03:23:28 AM
Fine everything after the first three.

I forgot ... Rachmaninoff


 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Post by: ahinton on September 18, 2012, 08:54:13 AM
Fine everything after the first three.

I forgot to include the Rachmaninoff sonatas as well.
I somehow suspect that, were Lisitsa a composer and had she written any, you'd not have forgotten to include those!

Best,

Alistair
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Post by: nanabush on September 19, 2012, 04:49:23 AM
Vine, Bartok
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Post by: hstjkd on September 22, 2012, 07:05:50 PM
Lambert's piano sonata is worth a look. It's infused with themes from 'Summers Last Will and Testament' (which also should get more attention). I must get around to buying the score one day.





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Post by: slobone on September 25, 2012, 05:58:04 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the Stravinsky Sonata, I think it's a great piece of music and not as hard as some of the others. Charles Rosen made the best recording of it that I've heard.
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Post by: ahinton on September 25, 2012, 08:26:35 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the Stravinsky Sonata, I think it's a great piece of music and not as hard as some of the others. Charles Rosen made the best recording of it that I've heard.
I'm surprised that anyone would even think of mentioning the Stravinsky Sonata in the present context, frankly - but that's just me, so take no notice!...

Best,

Alistair
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Post by: ahinton on September 25, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
Lambert's piano sonata is worth a look. It's infused with themes from 'Summers Last Will and Testament' (which also should get more attention).
Shouldn't it just! His best work by a mile!

Best,

Alistair
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Post by: slobone on September 25, 2012, 09:03:55 PM
I'm surprised that anyone would even think of mentioning the Stravinsky Sonata in the present context, frankly - but that's just me, so take no notice!...

Best,

Alistair
The context of 20th century sonatas? I guess I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
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Post by: blazekenny on October 09, 2012, 10:25:51 PM
Prokofiev
2, 3, 6, 8
The more I´m getting older, the more I see that the 7th sonata is often played for the finale (note that finale is just a dot for something thats already been said). Thats just wrong. I find it one of the very empty, yet just effective pieces. The slow movements in the other sonatas are as beautiful

Scriabin
3, 4, 5
The 5th one is getting hard though. The more mature sonatas are just weird for me

Janáček
1.10.1905

Rachmaninov
1, 2

Ravel
ehm..Sonatine ?
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Post by: symphonicdance on October 11, 2012, 02:54:48 PM
Not sure if I can learn, play and master their sonata(s) during my life...
Bartok
Barber
Bax : Sonata #3
Berg
Boulez : Sonata #1
Bridge
Copland
Ferguson
Ginastera : Sonata #1
Hindemith : All (but 3rd is my priority of his)
Martinu : Sonata #1
MacMillan
Medtner : Too many to list out
Prokofiev : All (but #6-8 is the priority of his)
Rachmaninoff : Both (but 2nd is my priority of his)
Scriabin : All
Tippett : Sonatas #2-4

Probably I missed to list out another 100 20th/21st century sonatas I want to explore...
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Post by: scherzo123 on October 11, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
all Prokofiev, Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, Shostakovich, and Kabalevsky  ;D
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Post by: 49410enrique on October 11, 2012, 09:57:57 PM
quickly becoming one of my favorite 20th century sonatas since i bought the score and have been listening along with my copy....


Nicolas Flagello (1928-1994)

Piano Sonata (1962)
For those who want to navigate the movements.
 
1st - 0:00
 
2nd - 7:28
 
3rd - 13:01
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Post by: pytheamateur on October 11, 2012, 10:45:01 PM
The latest 21st century piano sonata is probably that of British composer David Braid:

Piano Sonata, Op 14.  It was premiered this summer in London and is currently being performed across the country.

https://www.davidbraid.net/ (https://www.davidbraid.net/)
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Post by: 49410enrique on October 17, 2012, 09:40:37 PM
another goody!
boris tchaikovsky piano sonata no 1
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Post by: richard black on October 19, 2012, 09:05:08 PM
Pizzetti and his pupil Castelnuovo-Tedesco both wrote very fine piano sonatas, well worth a look. I play them both, though only the C-T in public so far. Weinberg wrote some (can't remember how many, but at least 2): I don't know them but if they're as good as his violin sonatas they are well worth investigating.
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Post by: asuhayda on November 05, 2012, 11:50:45 PM
edit...apologies I posted my comment in the wrong thread. 

Bartoks Sonata is a good one though!  I'm sure it's already been mentioned... see ya