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Title: how to play this light tone?
Post by: casparma on October 23, 2005, 04:25:58 PM
(https://a.domaindlx.com/supershare/music/lightt.JPG)

the first light tone c, is meant to be played by index finger(2nd), then supplement tone, d, is played by thumb(1st).


My problem occurs at the note with a light tone shown in the red circle.

As you probably figure out, the d# is most probably played by 4th finger, but I feel very difficult to such with 4-5 fingers movement.

I think I can do it, but I have to use alot of force and the movement looks quite awkward.


Any help?

thanks
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: fuel925 on October 23, 2005, 04:32:05 PM
maybe 3-4 fingers would suit you better instead? There is a short rest before and after those particular notes, giving you time to use these fingers.
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: fuel925 on October 23, 2005, 04:51:12 PM
by the way, do you know where I can get the sheet music for that for free?
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: abell88 on October 23, 2005, 06:52:13 PM
I think there are two good options which you should investigate (i.e. try and see which works better for you):

1. Play with 4-5; use a forearm rotation more than finger action. You might also try moving your arm out a little so your fingers are not parallel to the keys.

2. Play with 3-4, as already suggested, or even 2-3. It's not that big a jump, so it shouldn't be too difficult.
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: casparma on October 23, 2005, 07:14:28 PM
thanks for all the helps!!

I will start investigating tommorow.

to fuel925, go and check your PM.  ;)


btw, what is the technical name of a light tone?? both Italian and English, please.

thanks alot
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: sonatainfsharp on October 23, 2005, 09:05:39 PM
It all depends on the time period.

In modern terminology, it would be a "grace note" (eng) or "acciaccatura" (it).

The problem, though, is that in Classical era music, they are not grace notes. They are appoggiaturas, or a type of non harmonic tone. Since they were "naughty" notes at the time, they were written smaller, but played in rhythmic time with the rhythmic value they were given, albiet written smaller.

With this in mind, editors often put dashes through the small notes, making them written as true grace notes, however in classical music they should never have dashes through them nor be played as grace notes.

I have a whole three chapters on this in a book somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment.

I don't understand the term "light" notes because I have often seen accents on them. Just because they are written smaller doesn't make them light.
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: casparma on October 23, 2005, 09:23:15 PM
the reason why it is light is because you have to play that note as fast as possible, which is actually not part of the rhythm.
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: bon_bear on October 24, 2005, 12:19:02 AM
wow!~ Amazing!!
Metronome: 176?!
What grade are you in Casparma?! That's crazy LOL...well to me...it is...
or are you just playing it for fun?! lol...
Elizabear :-X
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: bearzinthehood on October 24, 2005, 03:22:38 AM
Just a little something that might help.  I recently encountered a similar problem with playing finger 4 on a black key with adjacent fingers on white keys.  It may see counter intuitive, but you may want to try a lower wrist with flatter fingers.  I'm not talking too much here, but just a little bit actually helps you release the finger 4 much more effortlessly.
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: casparma on October 24, 2005, 02:35:33 PM
thx bearzinthehood for the help...

but I dont understand what do you mean by "try a lower wrist"..., but the tip for flatter fingers is not bad. Maybe you/some one can explain it abit more on the first statement?

to bon_bear, it is a music piece from my book Burgmuller opus 100. All the pieces in that book are not for fun, but for my piano lessons. All of them fundamentally have the same diffculty. If you check on this website: www.music-scores.com, you will see Austrian Dance is on the difficulty level 4 out of 9, and most of other Burgmuller pieces are 5. ;)
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: bearzinthehood on October 25, 2005, 02:08:56 AM
but I dont understand what do you mean by "try a lower wrist"..., but the tip for flatter fingers is not bad. Maybe you/some one can explain it abit more on the first statement?

I meant, as you flatten your fingers, bring your wrist down and back a bit so that your knuckles stay in playing position.
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: Teddybear on October 25, 2005, 05:06:01 PM
3-5. :)

T
Title: Re: how to play this light tone?
Post by: casparma on October 25, 2005, 09:02:43 PM
thx beazinthehood...

nice tip teddybear.