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Title: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: iumonito on April 03, 2006, 02:38:23 AM
Anyone out there a fan?  I want to learn more about his works for keyboard (fortepiano, most likely).

If you have scores in the public domain that you care to share, please post, as I would like to get my hands on some in advance of purchasing a recent copyrighted edition.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: allthumbs on April 03, 2006, 04:35:10 AM
This is the only sheet music I have for him.
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: iumonito on April 03, 2006, 11:37:21 AM
Lovely.  Thanks.  [Late edit: this gavotte is the last movement of the sonata in c minor Op. 5 No. 6]
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: burstroman on April 04, 2006, 03:06:48 AM
The website cziffrania had some of his stuff posted recently.
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: alwaystheangel on April 11, 2006, 12:22:59 AM
J.C. Bach,  ahhh... he's wonderful.  Better than Daddy, I think.  I played one of his sinfonias in a saxophone quartet.  It was brilliant.
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: prometheus on April 11, 2006, 01:58:45 AM
Funny that you use the word 'fortepiano'...
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: contrapunctus on April 11, 2006, 02:18:53 AM
Anyone out there a fan?  I want to learn more about his works for keyboard (fortepiano, most likely).

If you have scores in the public domain that you care to share, please post, as I would like to get my hands on some in advance of purchasing a recent copyrighted edition.

Cheers.

Just to let you know, if you didn't already, fortepiano, pianoforte, and piano are all different names for the same instrument.
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: thalbergmad on April 11, 2006, 08:25:21 PM
I have zipped up some Sonatas for you.

https://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=262G9U1PQOGP01YWJR3ASIOLZZ
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: iumonito on April 21, 2006, 07:57:46 PM
Funny that you use the word 'fortepiano'...

I pulled the trigger on the Hogwood edition of the first set (Op. 5, I think).  I'll let you know after I get them.

Prometheus, ;D  usually "fortepiano" is the word for the instruments from Cristofori's until, I would say, the Broadwood Beethoven owned (you could argue a lot about the early Bosendorfer's, but it is unimportant for JC Bach). 

J.C. Bach worked in England, although I am unsure about the chronology of when his keyboard sonatas were composed.  I tend to think he was more familiar with the Clementi and Broadwood pianos, rather than, say, a Walter or Silberman like the ones Mozart played the most.  I tend to think Bach's style is much closer to Mozart than to Clementi, though, so who knows.

In any case, Bach sonatas were written for an instrument materially different from a piano (as we use the word today).

[late edit:  JC bach played concerts in London on a Zumpe square piano.  I know very little about these instrument, but will let you know once I learn more and how it may be reflected in the writing of the sonatas].

Cheers!
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: iumonito on May 01, 2006, 05:59:16 PM
A little bit of a bust.  Burt & Co. sent me an e-mail letting me know volume one is out of print.

Since these are Oxford, they can be reprinted from Allegro Music, but I actually had a chance to stop by my old music library during a trip to Bloomington this weekend and got to look at the facsimile edition, which is not very appealing visually, even though unvaluable from a musicological point of view.

So, Thalbergmad, would you mind resending yours?  I couldn't open the link.
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: thalbergmad on May 01, 2006, 08:57:51 PM
Here it is.

https://download.yousendit.com/5F7AC1D2142FAE94
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: allthumbs on May 01, 2006, 09:06:21 PM
Thanks, thalbergmad, I had only one piece of his and this'll add to my collection.

Much appreciated.


Cheers

allthumbs
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: iumonito on August 22, 2006, 08:51:32 PM
Thal, my timing is all off with this one, but no need to resend.  Burt & Co. had a big sale and I got the Henle of the sonatas Op. 17 and gave them a read last night.  Lovely, although my wife this morning was telling me that she was waiting for them to turn into real Bach or real Mozart and they never did.

I think I am going to work on one of them each week and post a preliminary recording of each one so that we can discuss.  It is lovely music, although at first glance it seems much less ambitious than what J.C. Bach himself must have played in his recitals.

Definitely piano music, though.  Basically no harpsichord writing in there.  IMO.
Title: Re: Bach, Johann Christian Bach
Post by: jre58591 on August 22, 2006, 09:12:35 PM
i have some violin sonatas by j.c. bach if youre all interested.