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Title: How about an analysis database?
Post by: Bob on May 29, 2006, 10:18:53 PM
Something useful for comparing composers and seeing one composers style.


We could make a list of criteria -- key, scales, chord, etc. -- and then analyze a piece.   Just filling in a chart.  Then you could see the similarities and differences.

It's just an idea.

Anyone up for that?

You would be able to see a trend and have specific pieces to support that idea.
Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: prometheus on May 29, 2006, 11:02:35 PM
Don't think it will have any use until you start using a lot of variables. Actually, this has been done with pop music and is going to be done with classical music. It requires a lot of research.

Let me try to remember the name...

Ah, https://www.pandora.com/

The pandora site is just a place where they test their music genome idea.

So now they are trying to make a similar system for classical music.

Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: chromatickler on May 30, 2006, 12:50:08 AM
did u steal the MART idea for the SDC database?
Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: Bob on May 30, 2006, 12:58:48 AM
?

There already is one?
Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: keyofc on May 31, 2006, 12:35:43 AM
I'm up for it - I am not sure about the previous responses - I didn't see anything like that in here.
I would be up for doing less complicated pieces.
Would like to know how to find this material which I can't find.

Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: pekko on June 01, 2006, 03:13:53 PM
I would be intrested also, but I believe that my analysis skills are poor. However, depending on the variables I might actually do something.

But how would be this done? A wiki or a supergiant excel file or something different? Open for everybody to make analysises or expertise? Somekind of voting? Could someparts be automatized? If so, how? Projects on certain collections of pieces or whatever somebody likes to do? Or both? Etc. 

BTW, could somebody explain something about that mysterious 'MART' idea?
Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: jspash on June 01, 2006, 03:42:41 PM
prometheus, thank you for recommending Pandora!!! I had no idea that I liked Sugarloaf ;D

I can't wait to see what comes up next...
Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: prometheus on June 02, 2006, 12:50:56 AM
The interesting thing about that system is that it does not look at the name of the music. It takes a fingerprint of the music by looking at the 'musical genome'. Then a computer code looks and compares all these fingerprints with each other. It would be interesting to see when they come up with their world music and classical music version.
Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: pianistimo on June 02, 2006, 01:05:04 AM
guess i'm more simplistic minded. i'd just like some sort of software that helps analyze the individual pieces without even comparing them.  if they are analyzed correctly, then, as someone else said - they can be correctly compared.  sort of like a line-up at a police station. 

this blog was an interesting read tonight:

https://maroney.blogs.com/sounds_like_new/2006/01/index.html

it was explaining that a different type of analysis is needed for different types of pieces.  he goes on to explain the types that he teaches his students (and for what pieces).
Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: pianistimo on June 02, 2006, 01:24:18 AM
something else i find interesting that he says is that orchestration is, in itself, a form of analysis (what is important, what is more hidden, etc).  maybe it would be interesting to also do an analysis of specific original compositions with several orchestrations.  i know, i always change the subject.  sorry!
Title: Re: How about an analysis database?
Post by: oguzcan on June 10, 2006, 06:17:53 PM
Hi. For the summer, I'm thinking about analysing some string quartets from Haydn to Schoenberg. If I can manage to do it, I can scan the analysises if you want.