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Title: Sonate op 2 no 3 by beethoven
Post by: benedict park on July 28, 2006, 01:53:39 PM

Hi everybody! i have a minor problem with a piano sonate by haydn (view title).
i was wondering if you would be able to gikve me some tips. ive only been playing for two to three years so im not very good.
thanks!
 ;D

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by haydn
Post by: kreso on July 28, 2006, 01:57:13 PM

Hmm as far as I know, this is Beethoven's Sonata in C major op.2 no.3, not Haydn, because all Haydn Sonatas are placed into Hob.16 (then comes the number of sonata for example C major Hob.16/50)

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by haydn
Post by: lol_nl on July 28, 2006, 01:58:16 PM

Did Haydn write a Sonata op. 2 no. 3? Don't you mean Beethoven? Most of Haydn's works have a Hoboken no. and not an op. number. Actually op. 2 no. 3 is probably one of his String Quartets... (I think)

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by haydn
Post by: benedict park on July 28, 2006, 02:08:33 PM

oh...hehe my mistake sorry... sonate by BEETHOVEN

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by haydn
Post by: verywellmister on July 28, 2006, 03:46:14 PM

2-3 years and playing op.2/3? :o

the 4th movement requires you to do a double trilll in the right hand. 
The first movement has those fast thirds, so watch out.

congrats if you can do it.

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by haydn
Post by: desordre on July 28, 2006, 05:05:18 PM

 Dear BenedictPark:
 Do you really want an advice? Stop playing this one and do some actual Haydn instead; a mid-period sonata (Hob 20's or 30's) will be a good call.
 Don't get me wrong but with two years of piano playing I've seriously doubt that you are really able to play this particular Beethoven Sonata. And this is absolutely nothing personal. Let me ask: what other classical sonatas did you play before?
 Best wishes!

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by haydn
Post by: benedict park on July 28, 2006, 06:01:13 PM

i dont blame you guys for saying that  ;D

i was really bored of the piano at first because i thought all of the songs in the early levels wernt fun, so i skipped a whole lot of levels and ended up playing a movement of K576 by mozart just this year, so then i came confident that i could play really hard songs, so i started things like chopin schertzos etc. and finally this beethoven song. and il take your hint desordre. im not good at sight reading. (im in sightreading level 4 and theory 1 :()

thanks

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by haydn
Post by: benedict park on July 28, 2006, 06:02:42 PM

oh by the way, im still waiting for a hint on the first bar. i practiced on it for so long, but didnt improve.

thanks

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by haydn
Post by: sharon_f on July 28, 2006, 07:02:29 PM

Quote from: benedict park on July 28, 2006, 06:02:42 PM

oh by the way, im still waiting for a hint on the birst bar. i practiced on it for so long, but didnt improve.

thanks

If you are stuck on the first (birst?) bar and have practiced it (on it) for a long time and didn't improve, then my hint would be to try learning an easier piece.

Title: Re: Sonate op 2 no 3 by beethoven
Post by: baron_von_heimlich on July 28, 2006, 07:40:47 PM

The first bar of this piece is probably the hardest bar in the piece (or one of the hardest).   Beethoven liked to put really daunting figures at the beginnings of his sonatas, I think.

Try it with the correct fingering (2-3 on B and D, 1-4 on C E, 2-5 on D and F).  If you can't do it with that and a little practice, then your technique is not developed enough to play this sonata.  Sorry!  But don't worry, you'll be able to play it eventually.  But it might be a little while.  Remember too, that this is a long and difficult piece and requires a lot of stamina... the first movement is 10 minutes of energy alone.