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Title: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: jamie0168 on December 18, 2006, 06:44:39 PM
I played Mozart's 19th two years ago and did well, but it wasn't virtuosic enough for the judges. I played the Saint Saens 2 this year and didn't do anywhere near as well as I would have liked, because it was technically too challenging for me. I was wanting something that's not quite as techinically challenging this time, but still quite impressive. I was thinking maybe Beethoven's 4th, or something along those lines. Suggestions wanted.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: Kassaa on December 18, 2006, 07:47:27 PM
Beethoven4 kills SS2 in terms of technical difficulty. Try Beethoven 1 or 2 :) .
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Post by: verywellmister on December 18, 2006, 08:44:29 PM
Try Shostakovich no.2 or Mendelssohn 1.
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Post by: teresa_b on December 19, 2006, 12:37:04 AM
How about Schumann?  Played a lot, but quite virtuosic.  Beethoven 1 is a good one.  Beethoven 4 is stunning, but very difficult. 

Good luck!
Teresa
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: soliloquy on December 19, 2006, 01:09:45 AM
Grieg A Minor or Mendelssohn 1.  Maybe Saint-Saens No. 4?  There are a few lesser-known ones that are quite nice too like the Massenet.  The Gershwin is definitely something you should look into also.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: jamie0168 on December 24, 2006, 02:39:58 AM
Thanks for the advice. Any other suggestions?
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Post by: cygnusdei on December 24, 2006, 02:44:27 AM
Are you playing the whole concerto or just 1 movement? Off the top of my head, the 1st movement of Rachmaninov concerto no. 2 is probably on par with that of Saint-Saens Concerto no. 2 in terms of difficulty, and maybe more satisfying musically.
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Post by: qwerty quaver on December 28, 2006, 05:52:16 PM
I would agree with soliloquy, Grieg A minor... ;D
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Post by: thalbergmad on December 28, 2006, 06:05:22 PM
I would agree with soliloquy, Grieg A minor... ;D


I agree with him too - massenet
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: verywellmister on December 29, 2006, 09:15:46 PM
Are you playing the whole concerto or just 1 movement? Off the top of my head, the 1st movement of Rachmaninov concerto no. 2 is probably on par with that of Saint-Saens Concerto no. 2 in terms of difficulty, and maybe more satisfying musically.
Really?  I found SS2 to be easier than it seems, while Rach 2 is a warhorse.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: sistermusic on January 16, 2007, 08:11:55 PM
How about Poulenc? A lovely piece and not heard enough.
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Post by: apion on January 16, 2007, 09:12:32 PM
Beethoven 3
Mendelssohn 1
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: sistermusic on January 16, 2007, 09:47:53 PM
Brahms 1?
Big, but not as big as Brahms 2
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: sharon_f on January 17, 2007, 12:04:55 AM
Beethoven 3
Mendelssohn 1

I second LVB 3. Great piece.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: apion on January 17, 2007, 01:33:20 AM
Brahms 1?
Big, but not as big as Brahms 2

Yeah, Brahms #1 would be great, except that it's extremely difficult.
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Post by: ilikepie on January 17, 2007, 03:13:41 AM
I second LVB 3. Great piece.
Definitely Beethoven 3 =]
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Post by: jre58591 on January 17, 2007, 03:16:07 AM
i third the massenet concerto. also, look into the early salon-type concertos like the mendelssohns and herzs, if you want obscure.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: dnephi on January 17, 2007, 01:26:22 PM
Hummel A Minor?
Bach D Minor?
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: sistermusic on January 17, 2007, 03:51:29 PM
Ravel?
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: viking on January 17, 2007, 04:11:45 PM
How about Poulenc? A lovely piece and not heard enough.

Seconded!  This piece is truly amazing, with it's mysterious first movement, and very witty 2nd movement.  Another suggestion would be the 2nd movement of the Saint-Saens 5th concerto.

Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: amelialw on May 25, 2007, 06:05:58 PM
try Mendelssohn's Piano Concerto No.1 Opus 25, I atttached the link https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_No.1%2C_Op.25_%28Mendelssohn%2C_Felix%29
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: phil13 on May 25, 2007, 07:22:07 PM
Hummel A Minor?

MASSIVELY HARD.


Mendy 1 is a standard first Romantic concerto, as are Grieg and Schumann. Mendy 2 in D minor is one I would choose over any of these three, though.

Either of the first two Beethoven concerti are good. No.3 is a bit harder, Nos. 4 and 5 should definitely be avoided for now.

Brahms? Are you guys kidding? The D minor, while not quite as difficult as the Bb major, is still a mature and fiendish work to be played by extremely advanced pianists. Hardly a concerto for someone coming out of something like Mozart.

There are a lot of good concerti besides the mainstream ones, but I don't know enough about their difficulty to tell you if they are good concerti for you to do.

Phil


Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: ctrastevere on May 25, 2007, 10:12:49 PM
Rubinstein wrote some gorgeous concerti. The most famous is No. 4 in d minor, which Music Minus One sells with an included orchestral accompaniment CD. It isn't terribly difficult, though it certainly presents some rather difficult challenges, but in the end it's well worth it.

The other concerti listed are all good suggestions, though I'd suggest checking out a variety of concerti before making your final decision as to which one you should learn.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: tradge on May 26, 2007, 10:02:32 AM
Ravel?

Haha, Ravels Concerto is the weirdest Piano Concerto I've ever heard! lol

I think Chopin 2 is a great once, but very difficult. I also rather like the Schumann Concerto
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: ctrastevere on May 26, 2007, 04:07:56 PM
Haha, Ravels Concerto is the weirdest Piano Concerto I've ever heard! lol

Which one? I think with both of them, their "quirkiness" so-to-speak is what gives them their charm.

You should try listening to Prokofiev's concerti.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: jacobwynn on May 26, 2007, 08:17:30 PM
There has been lots of suggestions for Mendelssohn 1. Why not go for that?
It's great good fun for everyone: players and audience; and we all need a lot of great good fun nowadays.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: klavierkonzerte on May 28, 2007, 12:48:37 AM
take alook at john fields concertos, abseloutly delightfull concertos
they'r a bit challenging but not very dificult.

i second hummel a minor concerto, i don't think it's very hard for i have read it and didn't find anything unmanagable in it.

or you can alwyas take alook at alkan concerto for solo piano.
just kidding ;D

anyway good luck on your new concerto.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: phil13 on May 28, 2007, 03:36:47 AM
take alook at john fields concertos, abseloutly delightfull concertos
they'r a bit challenging but not very dificult.


I forgot about Field's concerti. Not often played, but some of them are quite nice.

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i second hummel a minor concerto, i don't think it's very hard for i have read it and didn't find anything unmanagable in it.


I will admit to not having played through it (partially out of fear, partially out of lack of the score) but looking at a PDF of the piano part and listening to Hough's excellent performance of it, it strikes me as a VERY virtuosic concerto. There are many different and challenging techniques employed in it, including, notably, some rather ferocious and beastly-looking double-third passages.

Just my two cents. Like Brahms, it doesn't strike me as the first ideal post-Mozart concerto.

Phil
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: christiaan on June 05, 2007, 07:54:59 AM
Try Sauer`s piano concerto in a minor. The first movement of Rachmaninov`s fourth concerto and the first movement of Saint Saens Concerto no. 5 are options.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: clavicembalisticum on June 05, 2007, 08:43:45 AM
Rubinstein wrote some gorgeous concerti. The most famous is No. 4 in d minor, which Music Minus One sells with an included orchestral accompaniment CD. It isn't terribly difficult, though it certainly presents some rather difficult challenges, but in the end it's well worth it.

Well said, I also like Rubinstein's concerti and some of his sonatas. Too bad other more popular works have been wiping them off :s
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: elevateme_returns on June 05, 2007, 10:40:29 AM
Seconded!  This piece is truly amazing, with it's mysterious first movement, and very witty 2nd movement.  Another suggestion would be the 2nd movement of the Saint-Saens 5th concerto.



poulenc thirded (is that a word? )
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: amelialw on June 05, 2007, 05:42:37 PM
here's the sheet music for Mendelssohn Piano Concerto No.1  https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_No.1%2C_Op.25_%28Mendelssohn%2C_Felix%29
you really should try it.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: elevateme_returns on June 05, 2007, 10:57:34 PM
listen to the poulenc before deciding though!! its on gamingforums
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: thalbergmad on June 05, 2007, 10:59:58 PM
poulenc thirded (is that a word? )

It is now
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: dnephi on June 06, 2007, 02:13:52 AM
Beethoven Rondo is B-flat WoO is proposed once more.
Title: Re: suggestions for next concerto
Post by: quirky on June 08, 2007, 09:43:58 PM
The Gershwin is definately impressive!!!