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Title: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: rach3pianoconcerto on January 07, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
Hi does anyone have a pdf file of the warsaw concerto please.
Much appreciated.
--------Rach
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: bench warmer on January 09, 2007, 08:00:41 PM
That may still be under copyright, it was 1st published around 1942.

Nice themes in it, good luck in your search.
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: rach3pianoconcerto on January 09, 2007, 09:11:52 PM
OH ok....Thank you for letting me know. I wouldnt want to infringe on copyright laws. 1942? Warsaw....The inspriation must of came from world war 2 with all the problems poland had. Neet
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: bench warmer on January 09, 2007, 09:49:05 PM
Do A Google search for more info...

Briefly, it was written by Richard Addinsell for a WW2 movie where the Main Guy was a pilot & concert pianist. They 1st asked Rachm. to write the music but he declined; then they asked Addinsell to write something in the style of the Grieg and Tshaickovsy (sp?) PC's.

He did a pretty good job, but it's more a Rhapsody or Fantasy than a PC.
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: rach3pianoconcerto on January 09, 2007, 09:53:06 PM
wow..........how interesting.
later----
-----rach
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: quantum on January 09, 2007, 10:10:15 PM
Check PM
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: rach3pianoconcerto on January 09, 2007, 10:11:27 PM
PM?
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: brahms4me on January 09, 2007, 11:18:57 PM
Try this.  Hope it works for you.  If not PM me.

Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: brahms4me on January 09, 2007, 11:33:35 PM
I just tested the link I gave you and it works.  The composers are listed alphabetically so just scroll down until you get to Addinsel.
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: rach3pianoconcerto on January 10, 2007, 08:37:56 AM
THank you so very much brahms!!!!!!
I really appreciate it
----Regards
-Rach
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: rach3pianoconcerto on January 10, 2007, 09:27:55 AM
Can anyone provide a recording of the warsaw concerto that i can download plz and thanks you

---Regards


rach
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: brahms4me on January 11, 2007, 12:41:16 AM
https://www.westelmst.com/marty/portfolio/lessons/families/track7.mp3

Try this link.  It's with piano and orchestra but you'll still get a good idea of the piece and in the meantime you can sit back and enjoy and beautiful recording.   :)

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Here's the backstory (as they say) . . .

The Warsaw Concerto is a piano concerto written by British composer Richard Addinsell for the 1941 film, Dangerous Moonlight (also known under the later re-title Suicide Squadron). While Addinsell created the melodic motives, the fine orchestration was by Roy Douglas, whose contribution is rarely acknowledged.

The film's love-story plot revolves around the fictional composer of the piece, a piano virtuoso and "shell-shocked" combat pilot, who is a refugee in England from the World War II occupation of Poland and considers returning to Poland to rejoin the war. The actor was a would-be pianist, so his hands are seen playing in the film, but in fact the music on the soundtrack is played by an uncredited musician, Louis Kentner.

The theme of the concerto is also borrowed in a popular-music love song whose lyrics include "The world outside will never know...".

The film-makers wanted something in the style of Sergei Rachmaninoff's Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini and Second and Third Piano Concertos, but were unable to persuade Rachmaninoff himself to write a piece.

Spike Milligan repeatedly refers to the piece in his autobiography Adolf Hitler: My Part in his Downfall as 'the bloody awful Warsaw Concerto'.

Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: rach3pianoconcerto on January 11, 2007, 06:18:38 AM
Wow isnt that interesting. They actually had asked Rachmaninoff himself to write a piece for the movie? That is neat. Becuase he did only die in 1943 and he was in Beverley hills, CA so i guess if they wanted a rachmaninoff theme....They would have ask him. I find that interesting. Thanks a lot for doing some of the research and for the recording itself. The opening part of the concerto definately has a rachmaninoff theme with those repeated chords. What i think is neat about rachmaninoffs compositions is that whenever you are listening to a radio or a mixed classical romance CD when a rach piece plays.....just by the sound of it and the chord progressions you can usually tell that it is rachmaninoff. Sounds russian!!!!!!! LOL.
Anyway thank so much again....and if you find anything else interesting that i might not know about...let me know i would love to hear it.

Regards

-----Rach
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: jinx_dojo on March 23, 2014, 08:22:24 PM
Forgive the necro-posting here, but I, too, would really appreciate a copy of the Warsaw Concerto in PDF.

I have found the piano solo version arranged by Henry Geehl (in both PDF (https://www.danmansmusic.com/members/notation/pdf/28080x.pdf) and Sibelius/Scorch formats), but I have not been able to find a printable copy of the full score or the piano score for the full orchestra version.

The two are substantially different, which fortunately can be determined because Nyphil.org gives a watermarked viewing of the full score (https://archives.nyphil.org/index.php/artifact/84db83eb-f44e-452a-884b-2e2e73c981d0/fullview#page/58/mode/2up). I suppose one could re-typeset the entire thing, but I'm hoping someone might have better access so that doing so can be avoided.

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: g_s_223 on March 26, 2014, 01:02:13 AM
This piece is definitely still in copyright.
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: jinx_dojo on March 27, 2014, 03:23:46 PM
Well, all copyright-related issues aside, I'd still like to get a hold of this.

If we're limiting ourselves to purchasing published editions, I've yet to see an in-stock edition out there of the full score or solo part. There are numerous "easy" and "melody from" editions, as well as the Geehl solo arrangement noted above, but none that explicitly guarantee the proper solo part. The closest I have found is one marked for "two pianos," which one would think would mean "solo piano" and "orchestra piano," but the site did not offer a preview, and the cost was significant enough that I'd rather not buy it to "test"--just to find out it's some other arrangement.

There certainly must be a better way. :)

If nobody has it, I may contact Nyphil.org and see if I could obtain a copy of a study score edition from their library.
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: quantum on March 27, 2014, 03:56:17 PM
Try a university library, or use interlibrary loan.
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: visitor on March 27, 2014, 04:57:24 PM
the two piano score is the rehearsal score. the solo piano (piano i) is the proper one that is used in performance. I have performed this with conductor and ensemble in concert, i did not have to change anything I learned from my two piano score when I transitioned to working with the group for the final performance on stage.
Percy did the reduction:
https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.do?itemid=312794
-V

PS i am sure you can just rent the performance version (conductor and score parts) in addition to purchasing. Rental would be cheaper of course.
Title: Re: Anyone with a pdf of the warsaw Concerto
Post by: jinx_dojo on March 30, 2014, 03:58:04 PM
Thank you, Visitor, for confirming that the 2 piano edition is in fact the rehearsal score (and, as one would expect, contains the "original solo piano part" and an "orchestra piano part"). I appreciate hearing from someone who has performed the work!

Thank you also for the link to Hal Leonard's page. It is apparently also available here (https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/warsaw-concerto-set-sheet-music/2911360?ModPagespeed=noscript) (though I'd probably opt for purchasing through HL, that site gives a 1 page preview at least).

I was personally hoping to have a chance to try it out before purchasing--to see if it was even realistic for me to play it. In that regard, it is available in PDF (https://www.scribd.com/doc/119244286/Warsaw-Concerto-Addinsell-for-2-pianos) from Scribd (albeit only for members who have uploaded). If, for some reason, that link is not allowed here or no longer works, please feel free to message me.

Thanks to Quantum also for the suggestion about an interlibrary loan--I may need to do that for the score. I was hoping to avoid rental costs, but given the works' status, I suppose that might not be possible. Amusingly, I think by the time I'm ready to play this piece, it may well be out of copyright!

Thank you again for your assistance. I hope to have a chance to play this wonderfully melodramatic piece.