Piano Forum
Piano Board => Student's Corner => Topic started by: korsol on January 13, 2007, 03:22:31 PM
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When I learn a new piece i almost never juse the tags that are written on the sheets. I just play however I feel like. The reason to that is simply that I don't know how to use all the tags perfectly. Is it unwise of me to ignore these tags? Anyone know a link to where I can learn these?
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what do you mean by tags?
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hehe.my english suck, so I had to use dictionary. Took a chance but failed:P I mean signs like p (piano) f, ff, ect.
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If the reason you are ignoring them is because you don't know how to use them, then yes, I would say it is unwise to do it.
They are symbols that dictate dynamics in the music (how loud you play), if they are right or not, it depends on the edition (they are sometimes written by the editor and not by the composer himself) and I think it is perfectly acceptable to change them according to the way you feel the music should be played.
But first play them as they are written, and then change them because you want to change them and not because you don't know what they mean.
They go from
pppp - as softly as possible
ppp
pp - pianissimo (very soft)
p - piano (softly)
mp - mezzo piano (not as soft)
mf - mezzo forte
f - forte (loud)
ff - fortissimo (very loud)
fff
ffff - as loud as possible
I hope I got all that right, feel free to correct me if not
There are also many other signs that appear in sheets
Their meaning is sometimes even open for discussion since music notation keeps changing throughout history
But if they are there, the composer placed them there for a reason and you should learn their meaning even if you later decide not to obey them
Hope that wasn't too confusing and that some of the teachers in this forum will help me if I'm wrong in any way
Feel free to ask if you find any unknown symbols
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PS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamics_(music) just found this on wiki, if I find a pppppp in my sheetmusic, I'll pound my head into the wall...
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fff
ffff - as loud as possible
I hope I got all that right, feel free to correct me if not
I thought:
fff - as loud as possible
ffff - louder than possible ;)
B.
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oh
If the reason you are ignoring them is because you don't know how to use them, then yes, I would say it is unwise to do it.
They are symbols that dictate dynamics in the music (how loud you play), if they are right or not, it depends on the edition (they are sometimes written by the editor and not by the composer himself) and I think it is perfectly acceptable to change them according to the way you feel the music should be played.
But first play them as they are written, and then change them because you want to change them and not because you don't know what they mean.
They go from
pppp - as softly as possible
ppp
pp - pianissimo (very soft)
p - piano (softly)
mp - mezzo piano (not as soft)
mf - mezzo forte
f - forte (loud)
ff - fortissimo (very loud)
fff
ffff - as loud as possible
I hope I got all that right, feel free to correct me if not
There are also many other signs that appear in sheets
Their meaning is sometimes even open for discussion since music notation keeps changing throughout history
But if they are there, the composer placed them there for a reason and you should learn their meaning even if you later decide not to obey them
Hope that wasn't too confusing and that some of the teachers in this forum will help me if I'm wrong in any way
Feel free to ask if you find any unknown symbols
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PS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamics_(music) just found this on wiki, if I find a pppppp in my sheetmusic, I'll pound my head into the wall...
You may want to note that after you get to pp, you have to put down the una corda pedal (unless the music indicates otherwize).
Just incase you don't know, the una corda pedal is the one on the far left.
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You may want to note that after you get to pp, you have to put down the una corda pedal (unless the music indicates otherwize).
Just incase you don't know, the una corda pedal is the one on the far left.
I don't think you have to put it down
I sometimes put it down before pp, and sometimes I do ppp without it
Like everything else in music, experiment and do what feels right
I use the una corda when either the sheet demands it (and I agree with it) or I find it hard to control the sound when playing too softly
Of course I don't have a real una corda since I own an upright
Don't know what I would do in a grand
Still, I don't think this is very important for korsol right now, it just makes things more confusing for him
I was just trying to explain the symbols for dynamics in an easy way