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Title: Are all organists...
Post by: living_stradivarius on April 04, 2007, 07:17:05 PM
I've seemed to notice a trend...
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: pianistimo on April 04, 2007, 07:21:31 PM
and what is this trend?  a sort of liberace tendency or something?  frankly, i wouldn't know.  all i remember is a really cool couple of organists (francis atkinson- who played for west coast commencements) - who looked liked they really had fun playing the organ.  matters of sexual persuasion don't seem to really matter in any endeavor (sports, music, whatever).   unless you are expecting more sound from the organ or something.  is this what you are referring to.  you want a lot of sound?

diane bish is pretty good.  she's married.  she makes a lot of sound.

francis poulenc was incredible at the organ from what i hear.  he was 'gay' from what i hear.  i don't think it made him any less of an organ player.
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: ahinton on April 04, 2007, 08:15:01 PM
Many British organists are gay. The most remarkabvle of them all, Kevin Bowyer, isn't. So what, frankly - except that there has arguably been a kind of côterie of gay organists in a certain British cathedral setup that has come tacitly to be regarded as some kind of norm, where Mr Bowyer, who doesn't fit into any of that kind of scene (sexually or otherwise) and has the additional unique distinction of irritating almost the entire fraternity by having not only the temerity to be the doyen of contemporary organ repertoire in Britain but also to play the rest of the organ society at its own game by playing the complete works of Bach, Liszt, Reger, etc...

No - all organists are not gay - but what matters most is that the sexual predilections of organists in terms of what they can achieve and have achieved as players has no more conceivable connection with reality as does that of singers, composers, conductors or other instrumentalists.

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: counterpoint on April 04, 2007, 09:48:12 PM
If all organists were gay - there would be an extreme shortage of hairdressers  ::)
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: ahinton on April 04, 2007, 10:34:22 PM
If all organists were gay - there would be an extreme shortage of hairdressers  ::)
But if all hairdressers were gay, would there be a correlative shortage of organists?...

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: quantum on April 05, 2007, 02:05:03 AM
so what do gay organists have to do with hairdressers?

Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: timothy42b on April 05, 2007, 06:19:54 AM
I don't know how you could get any data.

But here's a thought.  If any profession has a larger than expected (by chance) percentage of gay people, it is probably because they feel comfortable within that setting, in the sense that discrimination is less than in other professions in general. 

That implies this would only happen if the larger discrimination is enough to drive people that direction.  Therefore, this becomes a measure of a society's maturity.  If discrimination ended, probably all professions would eventually end up with the normal average numbers.  The more certain professions become magnets, the worse the societal discrimination must be to cause it.

Or not, I've been wrong before.  Seems reasonable, though. 
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: counterpoint on April 05, 2007, 08:10:59 AM
so what do gay organists have to do with hairdressers?



Good question  :D

Oh, I see...

both are suspected to be not normal  8)
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: hghg on April 08, 2007, 09:01:11 PM
i think that its a matter of, whether you play organ or not, you are gay or you are not. Your profession doesn't stipulate whether you are gay or not...
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: living_stradivarius on April 09, 2007, 09:25:33 PM
i think that its a matter of, whether you play organ or not, you are gay or you are not. Your profession doesn't stipulate whether you are gay or not...

Unless your profession is "gay gigolo" ;)
Title: Re: Are all organists...
Post by: thalberg on April 15, 2007, 07:24:07 AM
All organists are presumed gay until proven straight.