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Title: Time Travel ?
Post by: chopianist123 on April 15, 2007, 06:15:48 AM
Will Time Travel Be Possible in the Future ?
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: nicco on April 15, 2007, 08:04:48 AM
Wikipedia has an awesome article on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: counterpoint on April 15, 2007, 09:31:44 AM
The funny thing with "time travels" is, that you think, the future is already going on - you only have to be transfered to it  :D

But then, if time travel is possible in the future, it is possible just now - the people of the year 2500 or so  could travel back easily to us. Why don't they?  ::)
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: thalbergmad on April 15, 2007, 09:58:16 AM
Why don't they?

They might have and we have not recognised them.

I think pianistimo is from another time.

Thal
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: prometheus on April 15, 2007, 12:19:32 PM
In may 8 2005 MIT organised the largest ever time travel convention. Many leading people in the 'field' (there is not really a field of time travel physics) were there.

They invited time travelers to come. It was all over the media. So future time travelers could have known about it. No time travelers came. So time travel is probably impossible.


Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: thalbergmad on April 15, 2007, 12:33:42 PM
I remember one of the Russian Cosmonauts coming back to Earth after a year in space, was found to be 1 millionth of a second younger.

Thal
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: nicco on April 15, 2007, 12:38:09 PM
In may 8 2005 MIT organised the largest ever time travel convention. Many leading people in the 'field' (there is not really a field of time travel physics) were there.

They invited time travelers to come. It was all over the media. So future time travelers could have known about it. No time travelers came. So time travel is probably impossible.




Maybe time travelers havent reached our time yet. Maybe nobody wants to come to this time because it SUCKS. Maybe in the future they have rules about how far back in time you can go, and only certain chosen people are allowed to do it. Maybe time travelers are actually here, but dont want to expose themselves in fear of revealing destructive secrets about the future.

etc
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: thalbergmad on April 15, 2007, 12:50:18 PM
Maybe time travelers havent reached our time yet. Maybe nobody wants to come to this time because it SUCKS. Maybe in the future they have rules about how far back in time you can go, and only certain chosen people are allowed to do it. Maybe time travelers are actually here, but dont want to expose themselves in fear of revealing destructive secrets about the future.

etc

That is true. Who in their right mind would want to come to 2007 when there are far more interesting times to visit. I list below what would be my top 10, in no spepific order.

1. 1837 - Liszt V Thalberg duel.
2. 1646 - Watch the Battle of Naseby
3. 1415 - Watch the English Archers give the Frogs a hammering at Agincourt
4. 1888 - Find out who Jack the Ripper was
5. 1945 - Visit Hitler in his bunker
6. 1215 - Witness the signing of the Magna Carta
7. 1888 - Stop the book case falling on Alkan
8. 2750bc - Watch the pyramids being built
9. 1250bc - Follow Moses through the Red Sea
10 34     - Give Jesus a glass of water whilst he was on the cross

Thal
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: anastazia on April 15, 2007, 02:09:09 PM
you forgot the most important one!
2002--- when bush choked on a pretzel.

that would have been really amusing to see.   8)







i am going to burn in the fires of hell, for i am a democrat.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: prometheus on April 15, 2007, 03:25:26 PM
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Maybe time travelers havent reached our time yet.

This was a joke? Right?
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: prometheus on April 15, 2007, 03:26:40 PM
I remember one of the Russian Cosmonauts coming back to Earth after a year in space, was found to be 1 millionth of a second younger.

Thal

That's just relativity. It has nothing to do with time travel. It is just the nature of time that it depends on your frame of reference. Time is not universal. Time is relative to your frame of reference.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: johnny-boy on April 15, 2007, 04:29:58 PM
Just wondering; how do the scientists measure one millionth of a second. Is there a plus or minus one billionth of a second margin of error?

John
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: pianolearner on April 15, 2007, 04:40:47 PM
Will Time Travel Be Possible in the Future ?

If you were a scientist working on a time machine, what would be the 1st thing you did after you invented it? Would you go back 10 years in time and give yourself the solution to time travel to save yourself all that hard work? Problem is, where does the extra matter come from to create 2 copies of yourself?
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: prometheus on April 15, 2007, 07:02:15 PM
If you were a scientist working on a time machine, what would be the 1st thing you did after you invented it? Would you go back 10 years in time and give yourself the solution to time travel to save yourself all that hard work? Problem is, where does the extra matter come from to create 2 copies of yourself?


There is no extra matter. The two 'copies' are made of the same matter. Well, not really actually since after 10 years many molecules in your body will have been replaced.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: nicco on April 15, 2007, 07:28:29 PM
This was a joke? Right?

I mean, they could have travelled to 2004 or 2010, not precisely 2007. It is unlikely that if they invent a time machine they will go back to every possible point of time in the past.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: johnny-boy on April 15, 2007, 07:36:54 PM
Just wondering; how do the scientists measure one millionth of a second. Is there a plus or minus one billionth of a second margin of error?

John

Nobody knows how they measured one millionth of a second?  I guess since it's scientific, we just have to accept it as fact. Us mere motals wouldn't understand the process anyway. ::)

John ;D
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: prometheus on April 15, 2007, 09:22:11 PM
I mean, they could have travelled to 2004 or 2010,

Is there any proof of time travellers in 2004?

The point is that there is no one from the future in either the past or the present. If they could time travel they can. It doesn't take time to time travel. It's like saying that they are travelling here but they haven't arrived yet.

Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: johnny-boy on April 15, 2007, 09:24:18 PM
Just wondering; how do the scientists measure one millionth of a second. Is there a plus or minus one billionth of a second margin of error?

John

Nobody knows how they measured one millionth of a second?  I guess since it's scientific, we just have to accept it as fact. Us mere motals wouldn't understand the process anyway. ::)

John ;D

Wow, I thought this would at least provoke Promy.

John ::)
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: prometheus on April 16, 2007, 01:12:35 AM
Where did a scientist claim to measure an astronaut's trip with an error margin small enough to measure a millionth of a second of time dilation?

Anyway, just to give you a hint. The most accurate atomic clock has an accuracy of two nanoseconds on a day.

Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: Bob on April 16, 2007, 03:03:43 AM
In may 8 2005 MIT organised the largest ever time travel convention. Many leading people in the 'field' (there is not really a field of time travel physics) were there.

They invited time travelers to come. It was all over the media. So future time travelers could have known about it. No time travelers came. So time travel is probably impossible.

Yeah, that's where I would go if I could time travel.  I'd go back in time and go to a convention... a convention filled with geeky scientists trying to figure out something that had already been done. :D
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: runescapeboy on April 16, 2007, 03:54:42 AM
all i am going to say is that it aint possible
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: mike_lang on April 16, 2007, 10:16:03 AM
They might have and we have not recognised them.

I think pianistimo is from another time.

Thal

You think she's from the future?
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: counterpoint on April 16, 2007, 10:31:30 AM
Another thought:

If time travel was possible and I travelled 10 years in the past - will I be 10 years younger then? Or will there be two Me's, one with my actual age and one with the younger age?
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: prometheus on April 16, 2007, 02:59:21 PM
We don't know anything about the physics of time travel.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: pianolearner on April 16, 2007, 03:26:24 PM
Another thought:

If time travel was possible and I travelled 10 years in the past - will I be 10 years younger then? Or will there be two Me's, one with my actual age and one with the younger age?

Look beside you. Is there an older you standing there? There's your answer!
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: wishful thinker on April 16, 2007, 03:35:23 PM
But then, if time travel is possible in the future, it is possible just now - the people of the year 2500 or so  could travel back easily to us. Why don't they?  ::)

Doh, you haven't been listening  ::)

We are living in the end times, just before armageddon.  There won't be any 2050.  As pianistimo will confirm  ;)
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: ail on April 16, 2007, 03:36:19 PM
If you were a scientist working on a time machine, what would be the 1st thing you did after you invented it? Would you go back 10 years in time and give yourself the solution to time travel to save yourself all that hard work? Problem is, where does the extra matter come from to create 2 copies of yourself?

I'd go one week to the future, come back, and win Euro-millions. Then I could buy myself a castle and quit my work as a scientist :-) or any other work, for that matter :-)

Alex
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: pianistimo on April 16, 2007, 04:18:11 PM
why do people always need a machine.  it's quite simple.  stop correcting the clock in spring and fall.  spring forward in the fall and fall back in spring.  in a few years - time would be completely irrelevant.  it would match the unseasonable weather.  the only thing left would be to have the sun and moon go completely black.  then, try to figure out what time it is.  (i'm scaring myself - because it actually says that in the bible - that the sun and moon will become dark).  but, if Jesus Christ is our light- then everyone will truly see Him when he arrives.  there'll be no mistaking where our true light comes from.

no man knows the day and hour - but counterpoint - i do think it COULD be within 10 years.  not saying this is a prophecy or anything.  but, how long do world wars typically last?  maybe 2-3 years.  ok  so IF we have a world war - and the biological, chemical, and nuclear powers are unleashed - i think if there are some people left over - they would be kinda relieved that this nightmare won't go on as long as it could.  i mean- radiation sickness?  that's even mentioned in revelations - as best as john could describe it.

as i see it - i don't wish for life to continue as it always has.  it's only gotten progressively worse.  we have great technological breakthroughs that are matched with great depravity.  for instance, just today - at virginia tech - some crazy is shooting people and killing and wounding them.  that's what happens at tech schools.  people lose their minds over not getting an 'A' on a test.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: ahinton on April 16, 2007, 04:23:03 PM
10 34     - Give Jesus a glass of water whilst he was on the cross
And then watch and wait to see how long it took him to turn it into what kind of wine, I suppose...

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: pianistimo on April 16, 2007, 04:25:43 PM
am sure fresh water would have wet his tongue better than vinegar.  we'll never understand how much pain He went through.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: ahinton on April 16, 2007, 04:28:15 PM
Will Time Travel Be Possible in the Future ?
Will it be possible in the past?

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: ahinton on April 16, 2007, 04:30:48 PM
am sure fresh water would have wet his tongue better than vinegar.  we'll never understand how much pain He went through.
I mentioned wine, not vinegar; maybe the event has, like so much else, been either lost or misappropriated in translation(s), but I'd always thought that legend had it that He turned water into wine, not vinegar and, whilst cool fresh water might well have assuaged Him a little in that situation, some decent wine might likewise have help to anæsthetise Him abit.

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: living_stradivarius on April 16, 2007, 04:39:44 PM
The funny thing with "time travels" is, that you think, the future is already going on - you only have to be transfered to it  :D

But then, if time travel is possible in the future, it is possible just now - the people of the year 2500 or so  could travel back easily to us. Why don't they?  ::)

Because nuclear weapons blew them up back into the Stone Age.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: counterpoint on April 16, 2007, 04:56:10 PM
Doh, you haven't been listening  ::)

We are living in the end times, just before armageddon.  There won't be any 2050.  As pianistimo will confirm  ;)

Of course you are right  :D

But at least it would be  a save way to escape harmageddon (jumping just 100 years to the past)
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: Bob on April 16, 2007, 08:22:41 PM
I would go back and stop this morning's burnt toast disaster.


Seriously though, I think I would like to go back and just be a fly on the wall -- be invisible -- and know exactly how events occured.  And then go to the future to "borrow" their technology and see what's going on so I can plan ahead now.  Of course, in doing that, I'd probably mess up the development of those things to begin with somehow. 
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: prometheus on April 16, 2007, 10:44:32 PM
There is a Star Trek episode where they are visited by a historian from the future.
Title: Re: Time Travel ?
Post by: Bob on April 17, 2007, 03:04:15 AM
And if someone has the technology to do that, then they have their own new horizons to explore.  Why bother with something boring?   Or, someone already is or has been here and we don't pay attention to it or don't know they're here.  :o