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Post by: pies on June 05, 2007, 05:01:18 AM
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Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: jlh on June 05, 2007, 05:31:46 AM
Interesting... didn't know he composed.  The Wikipedia article on him makes no mention of it.  Perhaps someone would like to write about his musical contributions on Wiki?
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: retrouvailles on June 05, 2007, 06:00:43 AM
I have only seen sheetmusic for his compositions, but I haven't heard anything. Looks rather interesting. Doesn't look out of the ordinary (for his time). I will look around for some audio files.
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: pies on June 05, 2007, 06:48:40 AM
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Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: soliloquy on June 05, 2007, 05:57:07 PM
It's actually pretty bland, tbh.
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: thalbergmad on June 05, 2007, 08:02:27 PM
Soliloquy speaks the truth
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: pies on June 05, 2007, 10:55:06 PM
I would have to agree. His philosophical works are more interesting.
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: marco_from_brazil on June 06, 2007, 06:35:08 PM
I believe in that time musical education was far more important than today, so most everyone had formal training in theory and an instrument. I guess nietzche's creative mind just led him to compose, even if in a tentative fashion.

here is a list of his works , including music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Friedrich_Nietzsche

actually I like this a Allegro a bit. very much like Haydn, and near the end that minor part made me think he was copying Beethoven's Op. 27 No.2, that scared me! But, in the end, a pretty little piece. :)

I love his writing though.
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: pies on June 06, 2007, 07:20:34 PM
From my understanding, he was a natural musical talent and great improviser.
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: pianowolfi on June 07, 2007, 09:11:00 PM
Well I once played a Polka by Nietzsche but I didn't like it so much, it was after all a bit weak. I think it was even titled "Mazurka" but written in 2/4 time :P A mazurka in 2/4 ??? And Nietzsche is not at all my favorite philosopher. But this poem by him is one of my favorites and sounds like wonderful, a bit dark but very interesting music to me:

    O man! Take heed!
    What saith deep midnight's voice indeed?
    "I slept my sleep—
    "From deepest dream I've woke and plead:—
    "The world is deep,
    "And deeper than the day could read.
    "Deep is its woe—
    "Joy—deeper still than grief can be:
    "Woe saith: Hence! Go!
    "But joys all want eternity—
    "Want deep profound eternity!"


I second that. Since twenty years :P Or more.
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: hodi on June 08, 2007, 11:38:37 AM
"Without music, life would be a mistake" (Nietzsche)
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: furtwaengler on June 15, 2007, 09:49:01 AM
But this poem by him is one of my favorites and sounds like wonderful, a bit dark but very interesting music to me:

    O man! Take heed!
    What saith deep midnight's voice indeed?
    "I slept my sleep—
    "From deepest dream I've woke and plead:—
    "The world is deep,
    "And deeper than the day could read.
    "Deep is its woe—
    "Joy—deeper still than grief can be:
    "Woe saith: Hence! Go!
    "But joys all want eternity—
    "Want deep profound eternity!"


I second that. Since twenty years :P Or more.

You are familiar with Mahler's 3rd Symphony? :)
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: James Shelley on June 18, 2007, 11:55:02 PM
I did a dissertation on Nietzsche's metaphysic and musc - there are recordings of his piano pieces - some duets too - The aren't brilliant, but it shows that he had some musical understanding when critical about other composers
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: jakev2.0 on June 18, 2007, 11:56:57 PM
His music is pretty bad.
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: pianowolfi on June 20, 2007, 08:43:14 AM
You are familiar with Mahler's 3rd Symphony? :)

I guess I should become familiar with it, now you say this :-[
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: furtwaengler on June 20, 2007, 10:46:53 PM
I guess I should become familiar with it, now you say this :-[

With six movements, 110 minutes in length it's Mahler's longest symphony, but what applies to this thread is that the fourth movement is a setting of the quoted Nietzsche poem for a contralto soloist. I can upload that one movement if you're interested.
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: pianowolfi on June 20, 2007, 11:33:23 PM
With six movements, 110 minutes in length it's Mahler's longest symphony, but what applies to this thread is that the fourth movement is a setting of the quoted Nietzsche poem for a contralto soloist. I can upload that one movement if you're interested.

Yeah I am interested, but be careful with copyright.  :P :)
Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: furtwaengler on June 21, 2007, 06:57:34 PM
https://rapidshare.com/files/38561971/o_mensch.mp3.html

From Mahler's 3rd Symphony, this is a low bit rate mp3 of the fourth movement only, sourced from a live radio broadcast of the symphony (released on Tahra, but oop) with Charles Adler conducting the Vienna Symphony Orchestra April 20, 1952. Hilde Rössl-Majdan is the fantastic alto soloist. Now in choosing a recording to upload, I realized again how great the symphony is. If you like the setting of the Nietzsche, and are interested in a full performance, I've an abundance of live, noncommercial recordings that can be offered. :)

    O Mensch! Gib Acht!
    Was spricht die tiefe Mitternacht?
    "Ich schlief, ich schlief—,
    aus tiefem Traum bin ich erwacht:—
    Die Welt ist tief,
    und tiefer als der Tag gedacht.
    Tief ist ihr Weh—,
    Lust—tiefer noch als Herzeleid.
    Weh spricht: Vergeh!
    Doch all' Lust will Ewigkeit—,
    —will tiefe, tiefe Ewigkeit!"


Title: Re: Nietzsche's piano music
Post by: pianowolfi on June 21, 2007, 07:12:45 PM
https://rapidshare.com/files/38561971/o_mensch.mp3.html

From Mahler's 3rd Symphony, this is a low bit rate mp3 of the fourth movement only, sourced from a live radio broadcast of the symphony (released on Tahra, but oop) with Charles Adler conducting the Vienna Symphony Orchestra April 20, 1952. Hilde Rössl-Majdan is the fantastic alto soloist. Now in choosing a recording to upload, I realized again how great the symphony is. If you like the setting of the Nietzsche, and are interested in a full performance, I've an abundance of live, noncommercial recordings that can be offered. :)

    O Mensch! Gib Acht!
    Was spricht die tiefe Mitternacht?
    "Ich schlief, ich schlief—,
    aus tiefem Traum bin ich erwacht:—
    Die Welt ist tief,
    und tiefer als der Tag gedacht.
    Tief ist ihr Weh—,
    Lust—tiefer noch als Herzeleid.
    Weh spricht: Vergeh!
    Doch all' Lust will Ewigkeit—,
    —will tiefe, tiefe Ewigkeit!"





Well I like it, of course, it's Mahler and my favorite Mahler so far are the "Kindertotenlieder" which I heard first on a recording with Kathleen Ferrier. Omg :'(. And this reminds me strongly of that. Btw I am Swiss /German and I know the original poem very well. I have searched for a translation and found the one quoted above. Well I think, some things in music are just so deep....there is nothing more you could say...