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Title: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: amelialw on June 30, 2007, 04:54:59 PM
Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...


Piano Concerto No.1 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Concerto No.2 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Concerto No.3 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Concerto No.4 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Concerto No.5 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Quartet No.3 in C Major, WoO 36 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.1 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.2 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.3 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.4 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.5 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.6 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.7 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.8 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.9 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.10 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.11 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.12 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.13 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.14 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.15 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.16 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.17 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.18 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.19 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.20 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.21 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.22 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.23 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.24 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.25 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.26 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.27 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.28 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.29 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.30 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.31 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.32 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: retrouvailles on June 30, 2007, 05:02:04 PM
Use the search button. This type of thread has been done THOUSANDS of times before.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: thalberg on June 30, 2007, 05:22:34 PM
Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...


Piano Concerto No.1 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Concerto No.2 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Concerto No.3 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Concerto No.4 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Concerto No.5 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Quartet No.3 in C Major, WoO 36 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.1 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.2 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.3 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.4 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.5 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.6 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.7 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.8 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.9 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.10 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.11 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.12 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.13 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.14 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.15 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.16 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.17 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.18 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.19 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.20 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.21 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.22 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.23 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.24 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.25 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.26 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.27 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.28 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.29 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.30 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.31 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)
Piano Sonata No.32 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)

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Wow, you typed all that out by hand?  Must have taken forever.

I'd say start with the Pathetique and then come back.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: etudes on June 30, 2007, 05:25:51 PM
well...my answer would really answer your question
but as far as i know..Arrau once said...if you dont play it in order from no.1 how can you play no.32
so if you want to have them all in repertoire...then you can also start with the opus order....
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: zheer on June 30, 2007, 08:53:26 PM
..Arrau once said...if you dont play it in order from no.1 how can you play no.32

  Not sure about that, though at first the thought of playing all the sonatas does sound a little impossible. I find that not approaching the sonatas in a dead serious way and simply sight reading through them (making music) makes the learning process less of a mountin to climb.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: amelialw on June 30, 2007, 08:58:34 PM
no, I'm not learning all of them. I just want to see how people would rate Op.2 &No.2No.3 and Op.110.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: furtwaengler on June 30, 2007, 10:05:00 PM
  Not sure about that, though at first the thought of playing all the sonatas does sound a little impossible. I find that not approaching the sonatas in a dead serious way and simply sight reading through them (making music) makes the learning process less of a mountin to climb.

If you've heard the expression, "Faith moves mountains," I don't think it is a miraculous thing. Take a shovel and dig a little bit every day persistently, day, after day, after day, after day. In a lifetime you've moved a mountain, one shovel at a time.

Such are the Beethoven Sonatas...and forget that Daniel Barenboim conquered them all and recorded his first cycle at 25, as Arrau and a few others did similarly. These are not mere men! We dig...

Enough of that...It's important to see the uniqueness of whichever of his sonata's we happen to play, knowing that Beethoven is of such a status that if he'd only written one sonata, we'd be sitting here talking about "the Beethoven Sonata" like we do Liszt's B minor. So we get to know every sonata, whether we play it or not, so we have perspective on that one sonata.

 
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: thalberg on June 30, 2007, 10:48:06 PM
no, I'm not learning all of them. I just want to see how people would rate Op.2 No.3 and Op.110.

Opus 2 number 3 is super hard.  I've heard it as a competition piece several times.  It's very well respected.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: mephisto on June 30, 2007, 10:52:36 PM
I am almost finished learning the Opus.2 No.3 Sonata, and indeed there are some really difficult spots in the 1st and 4th mvts. But if you love the piece, you will do it, and imo many of the other sonatas look harder on paper.

Opus.78 is a really good sonata, and Beethoven himself was very proud of it.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: amelialw on June 30, 2007, 11:05:34 PM
how about Op.2 No.2 and Op.110?
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: furtwaengler on June 30, 2007, 11:59:11 PM
Opus.78 is a really good sonata, and Beethoven himself was very proud of it.

Only piece he wrote in F-sharp Major? I think so!
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: mikey6 on July 01, 2007, 04:01:27 AM
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Wow, you typed all that out by hand?  Must have taken forever.

Somehow I don't think so, considering she has included the concertos and quartet in a sonata listing.
PLEASE NO MORE OF THESE THREADS!
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: lmpianist on July 01, 2007, 04:04:59 AM
how about Op.2 No.2 and Op.110?

Op. 110 is definitely harder than Op. 2 no. 2 but that's not to say that Op. 2 no. 2 is at all easy.  In fact it's quite tricky, particularly the fast scales and grace notes in the first movement, and the lengthy arpeggios in the fourth.  However it's certainly manageable if you've had some experience with Beethoven sonatas already.  I don't think I'd recommend it otherwise.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: amelialw on July 01, 2007, 04:09:20 AM
I have some experience with a few of his sonatas( meaning the earlier ones), a 2 or 3 of his sonatas and his Rondo in C major.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: zheer on July 01, 2007, 06:09:24 AM

Such are the Beethoven Sonatas...and forget that Daniel Barenboim conquered them all and recorded his first cycle at 25, as Arrau and a few others did similarly. These are not mere men! We dig...


   Why dig, more like climbing. One thing i've learnt is to dis-like and avoid  the temptation to compare with others, so musically speaking , where, how, when and why or for what ever reason various pianists decide to learn and record all the sonatas, is of little importance.
Title: Re: Please rate Beethoven's Sonata's from easiest to hardest...
Post by: amanfang on July 22, 2007, 12:47:34 AM
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